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Old Jun 3, 2014, 9:03 pm
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Originally Posted by SkiAdcock

There haven't been as many motions this year - USA forum will be the first & done this week
"Haven't been as many motions" actually reads ZERO (0) motions for 6 months Sharon, I hate to remind you again of the real world FACT.

And the 'USA' Forum is only being voted on, as CD Carol asked you to vote on it, and she said she thinks it is warranted, so I am sure the vote will be YES. (For the record I think it makes sense too - which probably guarantees you lot will vote against it!)

This simple question of whether to change posting levels has been meandering along aimlessly here for over TWO AND A HALF YEARS with no motion of ANY kind made to resolve it and address it, and your stunning solution is "lets start a new thread on it"!

Inertia in action, sorry. "Send it to another Committee". Even the Civil Service makes SOME decisions now and again! This is not about a $4 Trillion aircraft carrier program - it is what word to change the word "Evangelist" to!

And the rather trite comments from you and VP Bruce that "everything that needed to be done on Talkboard was somehow all done a few years back" is just that - utter nonsense. With due respect to you both. That is an argument the current US Congress could make I guess and vote on no bills for 6 months, but the US voters would not cop that inaction either.

You also say no member suggestions are ever being made here, so no motions are ever made. Well how about THIS thread??? Response - The President says: "it is all far too hard - lets start a new thread on it".

Randy set up TalkBoard many years before Gleff, Spiff, Jenbel, attorney28, Dovster, myself, ScottC, missydarling, Cholula, StarwoodLurker etc, were working together on it.

All of us could also have said "everything has been done on FT that can ever be done" I suppose, and gone on vacation for 2 years.

Perhaps all of us indeed "walked 50 miles to school through blizzards" Sharon, as you rather dismissively put it for some reason, but things got done.

We all of us put 100s of volunteer hours a year each into TalkBoard, and sorry you do not wish to be reminded how things used to happen. But they did.

Motions were regularly initiated by TB members from things we saw being asked on the boards (like THIS) , or amazingly, from our own observations on member posts, and gasp - our own initiatives.

You have access to all the TB member board discussions, and can see how things occurred, if you care to read back on things.

I cannot recall Randy ever asking us to vote on anything. Indeed TB was a member board that voted on things that seemed to need change or tweaking, and it was THEN Randy's final decision as to whether to accept it - or not. Carol I understand is in the same boat now. Talkboard members identified a new possible tweak or improvement, and made a motion, and if seconded, it was debated and voted upon.

I do not recall anything we voted in being vetoed by Randy, and again I remind you were were voting on up to a half dozen motions a MONTH at times. Some minor, some very major. But we were representing member input.

Those motions that passed, made Flyertalk a better Board for members I am sure, but maybe I am still walking "50 miles in blizzards" and am snow blind and confused.

Back then folks garnered THOUSANDS of member votes to get a Talkboard seat. The last election before Xmas saw new members get in with a couple of 100 votes. And they have yet to even vote on ONE motion. Maybe there is a message from members there? @:-)


Originally Posted by SkiAdcock
Having said all that, I think a new thread should probably be started at some point
Show some initiative and leadership Sharon .. make a motion for SOMETHING to occur, put it to the vote, and let the members know the result. That's why TB is elected. To DO things, not to explain limply why nothing is being done for many years, as on this thread.

Starting yet another thread on such a tiny trivial matter, wandering aimlessly for years, is a joke. IMHO. @:-)

You clearly do not like my motion, so word up one yourself for goodness sakes, or there are 8 others who presumably can, if you cannot.

Remember lots of motions are defeated - the TB history shows that.

bdschobel said, paraphrased, "doing nothing on Committees is a great virtue" but I doubt all members would agree.

Glen

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