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Old May 18, 2014 | 9:17 am
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Originally Posted by davywavy
Or maybe Frontier just keeps the slot for DEN and takes DEN-LGA back up to 2 x daily, as seems to happen in the spring.

There are two important areas with which this new Frontier has not yet come to terms, and one of them is NYC and the other is New England.

If they ever do go to New England, I guess it would be BOS, but in Frontier's present adventurous mood anything seems possible.

I guess it is possible that there could be a viable alternate for NYC area as well.

Who knows?
Which are the 3rd party booking sites that no longer sell Frontier? I recall there being one.

If it's on 3rd party sites and wants to be on them going forward, then it makes LGA/DCA/BOS-DEN-LAX/SFO/SEA type itineries be able to purchased by those who don't know much about Frontier otherwise. And there are always those that book last minute, can't afford the nonstops, and look at all carriers from that point from the third party sites between the major markets on the coasts and the tickets are sold very high still and likely profitable, especially during the peak travel season. AirTran likely was only able to make MKE -West coast work on flow like LGA/DCA/BOS-MKE-LAX/SFO/SEA.

The other question is if DEN stays as a F9 hub as it was pre Indigo ownership, or becomes just one large focus, where connections through it aren't encouraged as much.

Regarding NYC, most of the airports are slot controlled and probably no where F9 can grow much. I was thinking if it did SWF, JetBlue is there, but JetBlue lacks TPA coverage and there is no Chicago out of SWF. Allegiant has PIE however but Frontier could probably take on Allegiant easier than JetBlue.

It'd still be very small and SWF is not marketable as NYC so much since it's over 60 miles from it. It's only 50 miles from Paramus, NJ however. Paramus is 69 miles from TTN. Mahwah, NJ is only 40 miles from SWF. New Jersey Monthly magazine ranked Mahwah as its 9th best place to live in its 2008 rankings of the "Best Places To Live" in New Jersey (from wikipedia)

Wappinger Falls, NY is also within 20-30 miles of SWF. I know that area is nice as well. But I'm not familiar with all the areas.

HPN might be another option for MDW, but AA and UA service ORD but at high fares. AA and UA probably like selling at high fares to achieve high yields, so I don't know if both would make any move to counter a ULCC offering MDW service at low fares. JetBlue has Florida covered again here and every market.

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