Originally Posted by
OldGoat
Are you suggesting that TSA checkpoints are or should be designed to produce the same level of stress as someone pleading for the return of a lost relative? That's the only way the 80% number was reached.
I'm sure you will go far in your TSA career.
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According to what I have read as far as the scientific research, the only testing done that used people truly under duress, was the one that showed some form of positive result. That is a nice twisting of words in your statement above, I neither indicated, implied or even thought that TSA checkpoints should generate stress in any way.
I doubt it.
Originally Posted by
FlyingHoustonian
Did you actually read the entire report and note how that was achieved?

I certainly did, and it simply reinforced the information I took from this report. People that were under real duress (regardless of the reason) appear to have shown more observable behaviors than folks sitting in an office being asked to lie about things that are not really important to them.
Originally Posted by
mikeef
You're kidding, right? You picked the only study cited in the article that claimed that there is anything to BD. Every other study noted indicated that BD doesn't work.
Forget reading the article, everyone needs to read the study. There is nothing, and I mean nothing, in common between what they did in this study and what the BDOs do at the airport.
Mike
Agreed, but it boils down to an apples and oranges argument at this point. Almost every single test I have seen employs the same process of bringing people into an office and asking them to lie about something that is not important to them. The study using videos of people under genuine distress showed some promise. I am not saying that this is the end all of studies or research - quite the opposite, this should spur even more studies of both types to help educate all involved. I would love to see more studies using videos of people under some form of distress as (at least part) of the process. Someone lying about the color of their shorts or about a favorite story from their past - at someone elses request, is not going to exhibit the same types of behaviors that someone with a bomb strapped to them (coupled with the intention to use it) would. This has been my biggest challenge with the reports and scientific studies on behavioral analysis - it is next to impossible to generate the same emotional/physical stress loads in a laboratory setting. This shows a different format of looking at the information, and surprisingly for many, it shows that there could be some validity to behavioral analysis and promise in this science.