Originally Posted by Kacee

Huh? The definition of any upgrade is getting First "for the price of a Y seat."

There's no lack of clarity in this thread. The issue since the very first post has been Y/B/M instant upgrades, not Y-UP fares.

The point is that Y no longer books into JN, but into PN, which is capacity controlled. UP fares don't book into either of these, they book into a true F or J fare class (F, A, J, C, D, Z, or P).