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Old Oct 17, 2013 | 8:03 pm
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Originally Posted by lancebanyon
Sorry, I wasn't clear with what I was trying to say - the wine might be exactly the same but my perception of it might differ dramatically from one day to the next. Don't know if that's normal or not, but definitely happens for me.
Oh very normal yes. Many factors can influence how we taste wine in different settings. Our own physical condition (including what foods we have eaten recently), the environment, the accompanying food if any, and the wine itself. Wine as a living thing evolves in the bottle and it does go through what can only be described as "dumb periods". I find the more complex the wine the more likely this is to happen. I also see a lot of correlation between this and expected longevity. So much more in a Cab than a Sauv. Blanc for example.

Originally Posted by lhrsfo
True up to a point, and certainly true for young wines. However, the more typical tastings of 10+ year old wines (where 2+ bottles of each wine are opened) do often show at least one wine with considerable bottle variation. It is, of course, all traced back to the cork. Whilst the wine will not be corked in the normal sense of the word, you can tell from smelling the corks that one is very different from the other. The point is that the liquid and the glass started off identical and the cork introduced the variation.
There is bottle variation due to a wine being corked, but not all corked wines are that way because of a bad cork. The TCA is most often transferred to a bottle of wine from a cork tainted with it but it can get in the wine from other sources as well. Not all glass that looks clean actually is. The conditions for bottling are sterile for a reason, but unwanted compounds find their way in from time to time. That said, the average is approximately 3% of all wine bottles being corked. So if you are at a tasting and up to fully half of them (1 of the two or more bottles opened as suggested) are corked, that would be an extraordinarily high level of bad wine and stratospherically above the norm. I have never been to a tasting with that high an incidence of variation. In the absence of TCA any variation in the wine from bottle to bottle (all things being equal) is likely due to variations in storage. This is can be a major cause of variations in the evolution of an older wine.

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