Originally Posted by
HansGolden
Are you suggesting having this Wikipost in Hot Topics or in the each FFP forum?
In any case, my basic response is that you're using a hammer to do a saw's job. Yes, you could maintain a wiki with a list of links to threads, but that's what a forum is for. It's a living, breathing, updating based upon interest expressed through posts. Older stuff naturally sifts toward the bottom.
A wiki would eliminate the concerns about cross-posting, and would mean that wouldn't need to be a motion.
Originally Posted by
HansGolden
Given the volume of FFP-specific deals currently posted in MilesBuzz, I don't think this will cause any angst if implemented. I can't imagine more than 1 or 2 topics being hot deals in an FFP forum. (That was my guess, but I went to look to substantiate. Currently there are 2 AA topics and 1 UA topic on the front page of Milesbuzz.)
If there are only 5 topics or so/page that would be moved, how does moving those really clean up MilesBuzz then?
Originally Posted by
HansGolden
Wait, is this a serious suggestion or a joke/rhetorical point?
You're not seriously suggesting 50 subforums of Hot Topics? They would have next to no traffic.
It's a suggestion that if the airline specific topics are creating such chaos as to necessitate dramatically changing things, then why not have subforums? If subforums would barely see any use, then airline specific topics really aren't the problem.
Originally Posted by
HansGolden
That IS organizing to move FFP-specific threads to their proper homes. As it is it's totally ambiguous whether a United mileage earning deal* should be placed in MilesBuzz or in the United forum. It falls under the aegis of both. It's not going to cause chaos or clutter to move threads discussing an FFP's deal to the FFP's forum. How is that clutter?
* Even though I'm adopting your "deal" language, the history of MilesBuzz posts and the wording of nsx's motion make it clear that deals are only a very small part of it.
It's going to add additional threads to already crazy forums at times, to reduce the chaos in one forum. If one room has a giant pile of manure and you want to clean up that room, you aren't going to take smaller piles of manure and place it into all the other rooms, are you? That is, to some extent, what I see this motion as doing, without really doing much, if anything, to address the root problem, which is, in my explanation, a giant pile of manure.
Originally Posted by
HansGolden
ETA: I would like to also point out that this cross-threading only affects a small percentage of threads in MilesBuzz as evidenced by the fact that only 3/26 topics on the front page are FFP-specific. The vast majority of MB threads would stay fully within Hot Topics.
However, I do invite you to come up with a criteria that would determine whether an FFP-based item (deval, deal, promo, etc) should be posted in Hot Topics or in the FFP forum. If we did it your way, how would you structure that?
I would suggest proposing that as a separate motion.
In all seriousness, OP posts (threads) make up 6.3% of the posts here on FT. MilesBuzz makes up 1.4% of the posts on FT. Are you seriously suggesting that an allowance that allows a 0.0882% increase in posts warrants a 100% increase in post requirements?
I'm not discounting your idea that we should increase the post requirements; perhaps we should, but I don't think allowing dupe threads between MilesBuzz and the FFP forum will move the needle on posting requirements.
The description of MilesBuzz is, "Discussion of the latest frequent flyer & hotel program buzz...only" so perhaps you start by limiting it to that scope. Create a new forum, not a subforum, but a new forum, like what has been proposed, "InfoDesk" or something. That's where newbies can ask all of the questions about which is best, honeymoon planing, etc.
Leave MilesBuzz as a place to discuss hot deals, but with the discussion of them taking place in MilesBuzz.
I am suggesting that, if people are given the opportunity to cross-post and get away with it, they'll see that as an easy way to gain access to restricted forums.