Originally Posted by
Kettering Northants QC
Is it me or has this thread gone from being "how to end tipping" to "how to justify tipping" ?
Apparently so!
I suppose that now we know why tipping will never end
Originally Posted by
Ancien Maestro
Have to agree..
But on the other hand, I'm quite surprised with the food costs in comparison to other hotels we frequented during this trip.
That is only due to the massive failure after opening and having to rework so much, including menus and prices. (Not to mention reconstruction only a very short time after opening the resort)
At Disneyland Paris, I thought tip was included, so I never tipped.. long and behold, it was expected I bring cash to tip employees.. I never bring cash, only have cc's on me.. So I never had money on hand to do what was customary.
I really don't understand this. This is the French Paris, not the Texas Paris. Again,
there is no obligation to tip in France. You were not 'expected' to bring cash to tip as a tip is not required. It's not as if Disney is in its own universe; outside the US parks there is no obligation to tip.
Well, if a restaurant pockets the service charge and doesn't pass onto to the servers what they collect.. the restaurant will quickly lose good service people. .
No, they won't lose the good servers, because tips are not expected, and because the server doesn't work for the tips.
Even I would never tip beyond a mandatory service charge.. because my thinking is that the service charge is the required tip.. no more no less
This directly contradicts what you said above, in relation to tipping in France.
For those who think that it is wrong, and culturally insensitive for visitors to the US not to tip, doesn't the reverse hold true as well?