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Old May 6, 2013 | 1:51 pm
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Originally Posted by NA-Flyer
If I am not mistaken, nowadays all European countries are close friends or allies to the US with the exception of RUSSIA
Russia, as in the country that tried to warn the US about the (now-deceased) at least half-Chechen Boston Marathon bomber even after the country had been on the receiving end of Chechen terrorists who had US training and other material support from the US?

Originally Posted by Loren Pechtel
It's not so much sins of the father as the fear of the use of family connections to apply pressure.
Family connections in the US can be used as pressure points too, with pressure even applied from, by or on behalf of foreigners and/or foreign governments.

If family connections abroad is such a big fear -- and it is for some -- then perhaps the country should be in the business of holding a family member hostage and/or only employing orphans or those alienated completely from healthy family connections?

The "sins of the father" is used by the government against free US persons, and that is in part why I oppose DHS "trusted traveler" nonsense and why I instead prefer that such "trusted traveler" type facilities be a default right for all free US persons.

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