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Old Mar 1, 2013, 2:43 pm
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NFeldberg
 
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Originally Posted by pinniped


That doesn't make any sense. The demand side alone can't force airlines to offer cheap tickets. We didn't screw them.



No? Trick question? Why do I care, unless I'm an institutional investor in airlines? If I'm just a retail investor, I don't care because I'd always stay the hell away from these stocks! @:-)

I don't care about their operational costs: I only assess whether the transportation service provided is valuable to me. On some level, I do hope they can remain in business because I want the service to exist, but I also realize that they control their own pricing models - not me. They can offer me a $200 ticket and I might buy it. If they raise that price 50% to $300, I'll decide whether the trip is still worth it.

This discussion seems silly in 2013, because at this point the airlines have actually done a good job of taking back pricing power by controlling supply. The cheap leisure fares are scarce, and they are filling the planes with business travelers to fairly high loads and yields.

This time at least, they seem to have changed their ways. IMHO, for the domestic U.S. market it's in large part because Southwest has decided to become a premium product, pricing well above the legacies instead of leading fare wars. If somebody wants to start a fare war, it's Virgin or Frontier, and those don't turn into nationwide fare wars. Southwest occasionally lobs in a systemwide sale but they are no longer insane fares - just "decent" fares with lots of blackouts and exclusions.



Meh. Technobabble for aviation nerds. For everyone else, it's just a bus ticket. Get me from point A to point B.

When an airline like Southwest becomes the Ben Bernanke of the U.S airline industry, Id say we most certainly have a problem with cheap fare demand.
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