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Old Jun 17, 2012 | 12:20 pm
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TSORon
 
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Originally Posted by lovely15
Interesting comments. I do somewhat understand the rule, but dang, I'm a young, very, very white blond woman with a boarding pass that says PLATINUM on it and a GE card. The only vulnerabilities I'm looking for are the ones which allow me through with the least amount of hassle.
Once the LEO’s step in its their ball game. TSA cannot do much more than they already have with the exception of refusing you access to the sterile area. That means no flight.

TSA must complete screening on your carry-on property, no way to avoid that, but your person is a different matter. You can withdraw permission for the screening of your person but there will be consequences. A LEO call at the very least. There are other possibilities, some of which have already been mentioned.

Typically when a passenger refuses screening they are escorted back to the public side by a TSO or law enforcement if called. And honestly, we don’t really care what class of flyer you are. Plat, gold, whatever, none of our business and does not change anything we do.

Originally Posted by lovely15
In fact, I did have them call LE over. That particular LEO found the entire thing ridiculous, especially as the TSO was holding my boarding pass that I had "surrendered" as "proof" I had no intention of flying and was ready to escort me out, except the TSO said no. Which is really why I was asking the question. I didn't quite feel like pushing them far enough to get arrested, but it did appear they had no interest in arresting me. And after I took my boarding pass back, how would TSA know my name in order to level civil penalties against me?
LEO’s are LEO’s, not TSA. They don’t know our procedures any more than we know theirs. If a LEO had been called then a supervisor was already involved, and they are the experts on TSA procedure, not the LEO.

Originally Posted by lovely15
I did offer to go through the scanner again, and was told that was not allowed either. I wonder why.

I'm also curious - on a somewhat side note - about how I can consent to be sexually assaulted. I can't consent to being murdered, so how is this different?
One pass through the AIT is all that they are supposed to allow. Sorry, procedures. As for consenting, you consent to such each and every time you have intimate relations with another person. And there are places in this country where you CAN legally consent to being murdered. Physician assisted suicide.

Screening is not sexual assault, and you consent to it when you present yourself for screening. No one has forced you to undergo screening, no arm twisting, no gun to your head. It’s your choice. There are signs all over the airport and announcements over the airport PA system all the time advising you of the possibility of screening, which gives you advanced notice and the opportunity to turn around and leave the property prior to any such screening. That is how TSA meets its obligation to “due diligence” under the administrative search doctrine.
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