Although, I do agree this thread is out of control, and I do not condon attacking DGOLDS... there is another important piece of information missing. Those who praise DGOLDS and leture the loudmouths (for a lack of a better name) are all members of the private board moremiles. They founded it because they did not like Randy's rules and situations like this (flame war). I find it ubelieveably hypocritical of these moremile posters to complain here on FT . To say that randy should shut down his board because it is a laughing stock is the height of hypocrasy. You start a board that is heavily moderated and not open to the public then you complain when in the, old evil forum you left, they don't behave. Go back to moremiles. You should know Svpii, Njdavid,Dgolds,Markbach and others on the thread are members. Kinda of changes the texture when you know the moremiles folks are defending their own. I don't condon the bad behavior of Im4travel or etops...but I'd rather debate them, with all their warts than hide in a secret society and say one thing while really doing another. They may be rough... but at least they are real. Go back to moremiles and your calm board. ALL the people complaining here and allowing the pot to be stirred (they would have no one to argue with if you stopped responding) are moremile members. If you don't like it leave for real. Do like catman and premex did. At least the had the spine to do it right. This dual citizen approach is sad. And other than Dgolds and Njdavid... you guys don't even fly CO... your just protecting your buddy.