If there was ever an axe that'd been ground to the base of the handle... guys, please, do us all a favor. If you have misgivings, please handle them privately, in Email, with Randy. The last thing we need is one more huge 10 page slag-off. Remember that new people come here every day. They read the boards, they lurk. What better way to turn someone off to the community than ANOTHER flame-fest? Finally, I fully respect everyone's right to express themselves. However, when members get into these little 'shouting matches', they infringe upon the rights of the rest of the community by disrupting the flow of information and ideas. So, while you may be free to express yourself and exercise your rights, you most certainly are not free to stomp all over mine.