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Old Dec 11, 2010 | 2:06 am
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Winglets747
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
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Originally Posted by Cafe Specific
I think once you arrive in Australia, you'll need to change your mindset... for example, the AUS/NZ frequent flyer programs compared to the US ones are garbage. In a lot of cases, if you want to fly domestically within Australia, just opt for the cheap fares on Jetstar (awards QF points only on their expensive fares) or Virgin Blue (I don't like their plan, but have accumulated 6000 points). ...
The cheap fares far outweigh any miles/points.
My sentiments exactly, 100%.

FFPs in the region are not worth it.

Domestically I fly the cheapest, and when that entails QF or DJ I get the QF miles credited to AA or QF (depending on booking class) or DJ miles to DJ. Even with a 50% earn rate on AA when flying cheap QF Y class, I worked out 50% on AA is better than 100% on QF.

If you do want to stay with SkyTeam, one attractive option I haven't seen you mention yet is MH. Cheap Y fares (but not all, but certainly more than other carriers) will get you 100% miles on DL, but no EQM or lounge access. Still, better to keep everything in one kettle than have orphan miles.

Don't forget Garuda and Vietnam are in the process of joining SkyTeam, which will open more options for SkyTeam between Aus and Asia and beyond.

Are you moving to BNE permanently? If so and you're planning to do a lot of flying domestically, many find the QF program good for lounge access (but not much more). Keep in mind Virgin Blue is undergoing big changes on the premium front, so watch this space.

As for Y+, at the prices carriers offer it, it's not worth it. It's glorified economy. Save your money and go out to nice restaurants, stay at nicer hotels, etc.
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