I guess each individual has their own personal threshold and for many of the people in our office the latest TSA atrocities with the enhanced patdowns pushed them over the edge where before they were willing, very reluctantly, but willing to put up with TSA's bull**it.

The 5 hour figure is one I threw out. One of our people had a meeting recently in NewOrleans, they elected to drive, have their meeting, stayed overnight and drove back the next day.

Several have a meeting coming up in Chicago next week, much longer than a 5hour drive, and already most have said they will drive. I havent mapped it out, but I am guessing its around 16 hours each way, all to avoid the TSA hassles and perverts.

This meeting has been in the works for a while, originally flying was the way everyone was going to go, but again it seems the enhanced pat downs pushed many people over the edge that they were very close to already.

I reached my own personal theshold about a year and a half ago with a TSO I had an encounter with in CLE.

It helps when the ceo of the company who has an intense scathing opinion of TSA, comes out and says, "if you want to drive or find other means of accomplishing the goals of your meeting, and not have to put up with TSA and all its #&%*ing, bull**it procedures or to avoid getting your crotch massaged by a mall cop reject, then please go right ahead, if it is so far that driving is not a realistic option or if you just do not want to put up with all of this, even if it means we loose business or a contract, I am not going to require someone put up with that kind of indignity when I refuse to do so myself".

Now that is a great boss to have^