Originally Posted by
TSORon
It does, and the people have spoken, and better security at airports is what they have demanded. I realize that there are always going to be those out there that either don’t believe that, or that don’t want what the majority of the citizens want, but that is just the way things are. It’s a part of life in this country that we just have to live with. I know, but you can complain and stamp your feet all week long but its not going to change the fact that the majority of this nations citizens have decided to support the government’s actions. (sigh)
Well, Ronnie, even those of us in TS&S want better security. The problem is that TSA doesn't provide it, as GAO tests, investigations and findings have repeatedly concluded.
We demand it, TSA won't provide it. What it does provide is abysmal and invasive. We have a big problem here.
Irrelevant. It seems to me that despite your brothers sacrifice that you didn’t learn the less he was teaching to us all. There are many types of sacrifice.
I can't speak for him, but it seems to me he did. He is still out a brother, and no matter how you poo-poo that. Ironically, the government accords the 9/11 families who lost people prematurely a much higher level of respect than you are according someone who lost someone in the line of duty. That's pretty low.
Also irrelevant. This was your brothers sacrifice, his service and his decision, not yours. I did my time, I directly served my country in the military for more than a decade. Additionally I served my country as a foster parent for 2 decades, and continue to serve my country today as a member of the TSA. I am proud of my record of service, and your opinion on the matter is of no consequence. But I am also proud of your brothers service, and his sacrifice.
Wow ... a foster parent is serving your country?
Again, go back to the 9/11 families. It's hypocritical for the government (and those who work for it) to treat them as special for their loss and denegrate someone who lost family in the line of duty.
Many of us here, Ronnie, have government service in the military and civil sectors. You are no more special.
Your position being what? What makes your position more righteous than mine? What makes your position, your opinion, more valid than mine?
Same question back at you, Ronnie. What makes you more American (you have directly claimed that) than any of us?
This thread was not supposed to be about you or me. Not about what I believe or what you believe. It was supposed to be about another opinion, someone else’s opinion that I thought might be of interest to a few of the posters here, maybe provoke some reasoned discussion and thoughtful commentary about what “might” be realistic. Thanks awfully for taking us off track.
I question that motive. I think this was bait and a veiled swipe, and sadly, many of us took it.
Actually, we find on the average of 10 firearms (loaded and unloaded) each week at the checkpoints. We also find clubs, knives, and other types of weapons to me measured only in metric tons. Hundreds of thousands, every month. Hazardous materials? Also measured in tons. Explosives? Not tons certainly, but far more than anyone here might imagine.
Oh we find them sir, every minute of every hour of every day.
So that's what you're calling all the liquids and small pocket knives confiscated and at the airports?
Originally Posted by
gojirasan
Ever find explosives or "hazardous materials" in someone's butt crack?
I'm sure they're found in the garbage cans at the check point.
Originally Posted by
JoeBas
I agree.
The problem is, you haven't GIVEN THEM better security. You've just given them more and called it better.
We've been given "more" by the TSA alright ...