Originally Posted by
BearX220
Government derives from the consent of the governed. I'm pretty sure I've read that somewhere.
It does, and the people have spoken, and better security at airports is what they have demanded. I realize that there are always going to be those out there that either don’t believe that, or that don’t want what the majority of the citizens want, but that is just the way things are. It’s a part of life in this country that we just have to live with. I know, but you can complain and stamp your feet all week long but its not going to change the fact that the majority of this nations citizens have decided to support the government’s actions. (sigh)
Originally Posted by
BearX220
Having had my aviator brother killed while flying for the United States Navy I think I'm pretty well acquainted with that concept, thank you. And I think I know what he'd say about the current tragic state of the nation he died defending. He'd consider TSA, and its critics-are-traitors line of reasoning, a malignant perversion.
Irrelevant. It seems to me that despite your brothers sacrifice that you didn’t learn the less he was teaching to us all. There are many types of sacrifice.
Originally Posted by
BearX220
And considering how many TSOs spend their shifts slugging down Starbucks, screaming at innocent Americans and scoping cute girls for the Nude-o-Scopes while my brother's remains lie in a wrecked airplane at the bottom of the Caribbean Sea, perhaps we'd better not start comparing notes on duty and sacrifice, hmm?
Also irrelevant. This was your brothers sacrifice, his service and his decision, not yours. I did my time, I directly served my country in the military for more than a decade. Additionally I served my country as a foster parent for 2 decades, and continue to serve my country today as a member of the TSA. I am proud of my record of service, and your opinion on the matter is of no consequence. But I am also proud of your brothers service, and his sacrifice.
Originally Posted by
BearX220
Don't condescend to your public, sir. And especially not people in my position.
Your position being what? What makes your position more righteous than mine? What makes your position, your opinion, more valid than mine?
This thread was not supposed to be about you or me. Not about what I believe or what you believe. It was supposed to be about another opinion, someone else’s opinion that I thought might be of interest to a few of the posters here, maybe provoke some reasoned discussion and thoughtful commentary about what “might” be realistic. Thanks awfully for taking us off track.
Originally Posted by
sobetraveler
seems to me TSA is spending a lot more time looking at our private parts for weapons, etc., than our government did looking for WMD...
in both cases, they don't seem to find anything.
at what point are random searches of homes going to start?
if they can't find the goods on air travelers, where will they look next?
Actually, we find on the average of 10 firearms (loaded and unloaded) each week at the checkpoints. We also find clubs, knives, and other types of weapons to me measured only in metric tons. Hundreds of thousands, every month. Hazardous materials? Also measured in tons. Explosives? Not tons certainly, but far more than anyone here might imagine.
Oh we find them sir, every minute of every hour of every day.