Originally Posted by
Boggie Dog
In regards to the highlighted text above, are you suggesting that travelers should know if something is wrong?
Pray tell, how can we know these things since TSA will not divulge what things they will inflict on common citizens?
edit to add:
You again elude to "Enhanced" pat downs not being deployed at your airport yet I believe you have stated you are trained and can do these types of pat downs.
Is your airport allowed to do "Enhanced" pat downs are not? Are you personally trained to do this form of pat down?
As a side note, a discussion of interrogation tactics at CIA defined the meaning of "Enhanced". In that context it meant torture. Does TSA use "Enhanced" in the same light?
I have not been trained on the EPD, that is the reason I have stated what I have read, and received from other sources to be my basis for commentary. What I have seen described by some folks here, and what I have been told by folks actually doing the procedure are different. I hav ebeen trained in pat down procedures, but not this specific one.
Different meanings.
Originally Posted by
Jetbee
But, in this instance, your comments are wrong. You may not be aware of this but EPD's are being done in Canada on a random basis (and have been for quite some time now) because it is a requirement of the TSA/US Government for passengers entering the USA by air. Yes, they were not even subjecting their own country to this type of screening but were demanding it be done by another country. And, unfortunately, the Canadian government has not got the cojones to stand up to them and say NO.
So, indeed, this disgusting type of screening is definitely invasive and some passengers flying into your country are being subjected to it every single day... all of this just to please the U.S. government. And, whether you choose to believe it or not, one of those people is me.
Again, from what I have read and been told, what you have been describing and what actually is supposed to happen are different. I am sorry that I can't go into detail or give more info on the steps or specific protocols, but know there is a difference in what is being described. Have you contacted TSA HQ directly about what has happened? If not, I can post you the info for contacting them for you if you need. Please do not take this as a brushoff, but there really is nothing I can do for you in my capacity as a frontliner. If you feel that what has happened to you is inappropriate, please contact TSA HQ. (also, it is not a matter of not believing you, it is a matter of having different information as to what is
supposed to take place and what you are saying is actually
happening to you)
Originally Posted by
chollie
Not being snarky, but reread my post. I asked why there couldn't be a regular wanding followed by a 'wanding' with an explosive swab. I suggested putting the swab on the end of a 'wand' and swabbing the same areas that have just been wanded. More comprehensive than just swabbing hands and shoes, for example. less 'intimate' than a frisk.
That is a good idea, but it would slow down the process somewhat. I have already seen many folks that go for a handwand get the swab at the same time. I will forward that suggestion up to my bosses, and see what happens... No promises on a quick addition to the system, but I will send it up.
Originally Posted by
Boggie Dog
In regards to the highlighted text above, are you suggesting that travelers should know if something is wrong?
Pray tell, how can we know these things since TSA will not divulge what things they will inflict on common citizens?
Also, the comment above was made in reference to self policing, but if you see something that is wrong or you feel is wrong, then please say something. Your definition of wrong may be different than other people involved in the situation, but you are always free to speak up about it.^