Originally Posted by
tanja
I agree to 100 %. My "stuff" has/and are only chared witha few selected people.
I never have or have I been raised to share it with strangers.
I was always told that if somebody touch you , report it to a grown up or police.
I am not that desperate that I need starngers to touch me.
And I have certainly never/ ever thought that I have to be touched to travel.
I think this is so personal area that TSA and Co. should be ashammed that they even do it.
I have grandkids. And if they were to be touched their parents would have reallty problems with that.
And so would I.
In my case it would not calm/ help me by explaning to me what you are during a pat down on my privates.
I do know what it is. I also have friends that work/have worked in security.
And they all say that pat-downs that exists now is very insulting. And that they object to it.
So sorry It doesnt do anything for me at all.
Security yes but not like this.
You do even know how rude the majority of TSA are?
They are bullies without any respect at all.
Like I said earlier I have no problem with taking of my clothes in a private screening but being touched YES.
I was told that they (you) dont want to see my naked body just touch it!
Do you even understand how perverted that sounds?
Let me pose a different point of view to you, do you understand how perverted it can sound to a large number of people that I know that you would prefer to show your naked body to some total strangers rather than be patter down for a security clearance procedure? I think in your case there is a cultural or personal conflict with being touched - and that is ok! We all have things that are important to us for whatever reason (be it religious, cultural, personal, injury, etc). I believe in your case it would have to be something the onsite Supervisor or Manager would have to make a call on how the situation would proceed. When a passenger purchases a ticket there is an agreement that the passenger understands they have to undergo the screening at the checkpoint, so your situation would probably be handled above my paygrade. I am sorry that I do not have a better answer for you.
Originally Posted by
chollie
gsoltso, thanks for your reply.
Will everyone be required to train to do these patdowns? I ask because there have been a couple reports of long waits because a trained female TSO wasn't available. I don't know if that means fewer women opt out or fewer women TSOs have been trained.
Does a TSO have the option of declining this duty?
I really can't give specifics on what is required of the TSOs, but I can tell you some of the training I have recieved. The absence of a female TSO at your checkpoint could have been a number of situations - a TSO could have been away to use the restroom, on break, they all could have been involved in something else pertaining to work, there could be an injury that took a TSO away from the checkpoint, there could have been an illness that caused a call out, or there could have been a shortage of females at that location due to staffing.
I am not certain about the declining of the duty - I have never heard of that happening, but I am not certain that I have seen anything specifically stating that. It is not a situation I have ever run into, but I would think it would be frowned upon heavily (my opinion only).
Originally Posted by
Mr. Elliott
Gsoltso, I am asking you this question directly now.
I am sure you have read my previous posts about my concerns about my laptop being stolen from the x-ray machine if I have to go through the NOS and lose sight of my personal property.
So answer my question, don’t ignore it, what is the TSA policy about passengers demanding to keep their personal possessions in sight when going through the NOS.
Post the policy now, if there is none, then tell me so I know what I am up against when I complain to a supervisor about losing sight of my possessions.
Mr. Elliott
Mr. Elliott,
1) I can not post policy that is not public knowledge on this site, so I can't post the actual verbiage on here explaining the current protocols that fall under SSI headings.
2) Do not try and TELL me what to do. The next time you try to order me to do something, I will completely ignore your post from here on. The way you posted is rude and I will not respond if you direct something to me in like kind again.
3) If I were traveling and were sent to another section of the checkpoint for additional screening, my items would go with me before I moved. Is that the kind of answer you were looking for?