Originally Posted by
Sam Drucker
For those that want it, they can pay for it. For those that don't want to pay for it, don't! But respect that some of us do find it a suitable and efficient tool.
Why does anybody buy a coke or a loaf of bread at 7-Eleven when they could always get a better price at Walmart? Convenience.
Originally Posted by
jarusoba
What would KVS have done to please you? Put a big footnote to its every feature and say something like: you could get this info for free at so and so website?
I know that I originally stated that I would leave this forum, but I must stand up for sbm12's position when you are attacking him/her. I do not think your attacks are fair.
Your comparison to 7-11 vs Walrt is not accurate. The real analogy is: "Walmart is not supposed to advertise here (per FT posting guidelines, nobody should be advertising here unless they pay for an ad), but Walmart has, with over 7,000 posts. 7-11 has no ads here, and 7-11 is free. 7-11 is a little harder to get to, but it's free. Walmart is not free, but is "grandfathered" in because of a clause, and it is allowed to essentially advertise here for free by positing 'kvs available' all over FT."
It's like having a travel agent offer his services on FT. Sure, you can do the search yourself for free, but if you have the travel agent do it, it's much more convenient and easy. It just costs you. Travel agents are banned on FT from advertising their services.
The thing that I find egregiously wrong with this situation is that KVS will constantly go to threads and state, "It's available on KVS," or "KVS shows it's available." Then, he will post multiple links to the KVS website. This is essentially advertising by KVS on other threads all over FT. If he only stayed on this thread, that's fine; but he goes all over FT and essentially "advertises" KVS with these posts (look for yourself; they're almost all about KVS and there are always links to KVS).
By the way, KVS pulled me into this whole mix with his multiple "ads" on other threads that I have been in, constantly posting "KVS shows it's available" on threads that have nothing to do with KVS. Of course, the natural inclination when one sees all these posts is, "What is this KVS thing? Let me look into it." Sure enough, it's a commercial for-profit website....
So sbm12 is pushing the "purity" of FT by calling out the free advertising of KVS, which is the spirit of FT (to be commercial-free). Those who accuse sbm12 of not being in the spirit of FT are missing the big picture of what this moderator is trying to do: calling a spade a spade.