Prior to starting this thread there, I did, as I anticipated it would quickly go off-topic, and people would get personal, then it would be shut down. The mod I spoke with said they would leave it open, and if it deteriorates, then they would act accordingly.

Needless to say, it immediately became about me, vs about the original topic, and has been moved. My point is still the same, there is no need for people to label any poster or group of posters as anything, no need to talk about perceived cultural liabilities, and no need to imply/state baseless statements that have no factual or emperical basis in order to weaken the other side's position.

The thread isn't about any single post, or poster, rather about what I see as a more prevalent style of debate that avoids the neutral facts and tries to emotionally charge simple, logical discussions with irrelevant mis-statements and name calling.

If one feels the need to make it about me, and me alone, feel free to PM me until my inbox is full, which would be in about 5 PMs.