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Originally Posted by
SATTSO
I have a question for you, Phil. You say I evade questions, but please explain this which I post from another thread:
(Phil's question to me) "Is it TSA's policy to refrain from offering "passenger screening" (i.e., searching and questioning of a passenger) to a person if that person has ID on his or her person and refuses to show TSA that ID?
"Yes, that is TSA policy" "no, that is not TSA policy," or "cannot answer; more information needed"
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Originally Posted by SATTSO
1. Would ask you then, "ok, how can we identify you." decision wouldn't be made until that question is asked and or/answered.
(Phil then replies to my answer) You never said, yes, no, or cannot answer. Would you please either answer the question, tell us that you cannot answer it, or tell us that you refuse to answer it? I suspect that the answer is 'no,' but I'd like you to confirm. Did you mean to say, "No, Phil, it is not our policy to refrain from offering "passenger screening" (i.e., searching and questioning of a passenger) to someone because he refused to show us ID that he has on his person."?
Explanation: You told us that once, while performing your duties as document checker, you met a passenger who declined to present identity credentials, and you refused to examine his boarding pass, effectively barring him from traveling because instead of telling you that his credentials were lost or stolen, he noted that he's not required to do so:
Originally Posted by
SATTSO
I have encountered a situation like yours and the one you describe. It's quiet easy to deal with. A passenger refused to present ID, he wasn't allowed in. And I did not check his BP. Now it didn't happen, but if he would have proceeded past me there is an easy solution. Since I had not checked his BP, i would have had a LEO escort him back out of the checkpoint.
So Boggie Dog asked if it is TSA's policy to refrain from questioning and searching a passenger (prerequisites for boarding a flight) if that person has identity credentials on his person and refuses to present them. You hemmed and hawed, never answering this simple yes/no question with a yes or a no. You told us what would happen in that situation, but never once answered the question about TSA policy.
Originally Posted by
SATTSO
Have I caught you in a lie, Phil
No.
Originally Posted by
SATTSO
Having learned about how you post here, I did not specifically say "more information needed", as before that got me no where. What did I do? I gave a SPECIFIC question that would be asked that clearly indicates more information needed.
Sure. In response to that question, you asked another question. You never answered the questions, though.
#1 - #3: yes, no, or cannot answer. Simple. Up to you. I'm losing interest.
Originally Posted by
SATTSO
"You never said, yes, no, or cannot answer."
Oddly enough, you left out part of what you were looking for in your first post of the question, which was "more information needed".
I don't know how to make this any clearer. When someone asks you if something is the case or not, the only logical answers to that question are 'yes' or 'no'. Suspecting that you were unable to answer some of these questions but were having difficulty expressing that and instead insisting that you
had answered them, I suggested how you might explain that you cannot answer.
Originally Posted by
SATTSO
I have answered every one of your questions.
I don't think so. If you do, you can prove hat you answered at least three of them: Quote the posts in which you said 'yes' or 'no' to the three questions above. If you think those aren't yes/no questions, please say so. If you can't answer them (because you need more information in order to do so, or for any other reason) then you must not have answered them.