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Old Dec 9, 2009 | 6:11 pm
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Hi Everyone, thanks for your comments and below are some answers to your questions. Please let me know if I missed anything.
Originally Posted by PhillyPhlyer40
Does this included AWARD tickets, LIKE UA????

PLLLEASE say it does. I will bring my ~$60K BACK to CO if it does-and not look back at UA!!!
Sorry PhillyPhlyer40, at this time our new System-wide Upgrades will only be valid in conjunction with published fares, not travel rewards.
Originally Posted by Delta3MM
Scott, I have one question. For SWU upgrades that don't clear in advance, at what point do they go under airport control, and what is the order in which you clear SWU upgrades? Is it based on order, status, fare purchased or some combination? Also, do you clear all available seats?
Hi Delta3MM, we will allow you to waitlist up to 24 hours before the first segment in your itinerary departs. After that point, you will be transitioned to the airport standby list upon check-in. For more information about our waitlist and airport standby policy for System-wide Upgrades (which will be identical to our policy for OnePass Upgrade rewards), please check out our System-wide Upgrades FAQ.

Originally Posted by Delta3MM
Also, curious as to why 4? United is 6 at 100K (not quite as useful as yours, excluding SLTK fares) and can earn unlimited 2 more every 50K, Delta is 4 at 75K (but not as useful as yours, excluding all but YBM fares) and American is 8 at 100K (almost all fares, I believe).
There are a number of considerations that factored into this, Delta3MM, not the least of which was the extraordinary cost! In simplest terms, we wanted to make sure that we rewarded our members who flew us a bunch with a confirmed roundtrip upgrade for themselves and a travel companion, and without a lot of complication. While these can be used in numerous other combinations, like four one-ways, this nonetheless was the motivation behind the four.
Originally Posted by cova
The 4MM run for Lifetime Presidential Platinum kind of assumes something like a 40 year run (say 22 to 62) at 100K per year. Since mileage accrual started in 1985, CO should consider a handicap for people that were older than 22 in 1985. Since many flew CO prior to the start of the FF programs.
Hi cova, I can't blame you for asking, but I'd respectfully ask that you not hold your breath for this one. Commercial reasons aside, this would be a nightmare to administer.
Originally Posted by GeneDoc
Does the designated spouse/significant other status match for million milers include the Presidential Platinum Elite level?
Hi GeneDoc, the answer is yes, if the Million Miler has earned Presidential Platinum status, then his or her designated spouse or significant other will also get Presidential Platinum status. The one difference is that the spouse/significant other membership will not include the fee-waived Presidential Plus credit card benefit (or 25,000 miles for offshore customers).
Originally Posted by OnePassMan
Ok, I have a question for CO INSIDER (or anyone who knows):

Years back, I somehow managed to put up with CALite (and other unfortunate events) and qualified for the Infinite Elite program. I was told I'd have "top tier" for life.

Having said that, I just saw the post that said Infinite Elites would not in fact get this newest "top tier" so I'm just wondering: why not?

Not complaining, but I am curious (what happens if yet another tier comes along later?)

Are there that many Infinite Elite's around? (I've no clue)

Isn't a deal a deal?
Hi OnePassMan, I hope you will agree that Infinite Platinum in itself was an extremely generous proposition, and that we have delivered on our end of the bargain. Simply put, Presidential Platinum is a private tier and will be limited to those who we choose to invite. For now, this means Platinum Elite members who reach a certain spending threshold, our Four Million Milers and our Chairman’s Circle members. As an Infinite Platinum Elite, you do have one less hurdle than everyone else who has qualify for Platinum in addition to meeting the spend threshold.
Originally Posted by okrogius
Any information on whether this would be usable on UA flights, or if UA SWUs can be used on CO flights in some reciprocity manner?
Hi okrogius, not at this time.
Originally Posted by CObigtimefan
If I purchase a CO-codeshare flight on UA, does CO get any $? (The price is the same whether its from UA.com or CO.com)
Hi CObigtimefan, the operating carrier is the one who gets the dough, therefore a CO-coded flight operated by one of our partners would not count toward your Presidential Platinum spending qualification. For the revenue (or prorated portion of the revenue) to count, the flight has to be operated by Continental, Continental Micronesia, or one of our Continental Express/Continental Connection regional affiliates.
Originally Posted by cova
Where do Pres Plat companions fall in the airport upgrade list? Ahead of regular Plats?
Hi cova, Presidential Platinums will be prioritized ahead of Platinums for all upgrades and standby.

Originally Posted by cova
Will CO include wallet candy and bump up Plat's in the Pres Plat ranks if they still spend $30K? CO Insider answered question that Pres Plat must still qualify for Plat. Is that qualification a rigid 75K? (Question asked since it is reported that the Plat level for this year is an unadvertised 70K versus 75K - which is not rigid).
Yes, cova, as long as you're a Platinum Elite, you're eligible to be invited into Presidential Platinum provided you meet the established spending threshold. Doesn't matter how you got there.

Originally Posted by cova
What about the Chairman's Elite program? Are Chairmen reg Plat or Pres Plat for upgrades?
Chairman’s Circle members will be considered Presidential Platinum for the purpose of upgrade and airport standby prioritization. Worth noting, however, for waitlists, Presidential Platinums and Platinums will have the same priority classification (PA, for those in the know). This is more of a systems/alliance-level issue than a philosophical issue.

Originally Posted by cova
Why is Pres Plat considered "by invitation", since the qual requirements are published and tracked on your OnePass statement? Are there exceptions to earning PPlat?
I wouldn't read too deep into this, cova. As mentioned further up, we consider Presidential Platinum invitation-only because it is a private tier that is limited to those who we choose to invite. Unlike our three earn-based tiers, where we barely ever dare change the qualification levels, the spend threshold for Presidential Platinum likely will change (although probably not drastically) every year or two in order to preserve the exclusivity (i.e. size) of the program.
Originally Posted by sedonanative
Regarding the $30,000 requirement, does that money also need to be spent Jan 1-Dec 31?
In other words, I have already purchased flights for Jan 2010--that mileage will accrue in my 2010 calendar year (because that is when I fly) but I actually spend the funds in 2009.
Please advise.
Hi sedonanative, the flights need to take place Jan. 1 through Dec. 31. It doesn't matter when you actually bought your ticket.
Originally Posted by cova
The answer is no. I guess since UA GS only recognizes UA revenue it makes sense. But with CO and UA doing revenue share on TATL - then one would think that UA TATL should count - but maybe there are logistics that make that accounting not possible.
Although I don't have anything concrete to add to this right now, cova, we will be sure to clarify what counts with respect to eligible spend when our transatlantic joint venture takes effect.
Originally Posted by Steph3n
Now I do wonder a bit about purchases outside of CO.com in all this calculation.
Hi Steph3n, in terms of the spend threshold for Presidential Platinum, the published fare and the operating carrier are what matters, not the booking channel or the ticket stock.
Originally Posted by SS255
Regarding the $30,000 "annual spending on Continental travel": Does this include fees, buy-ups and co-pays, or just ticket purchases?
Hi SS255, great question. The base fare and, when applicable, the fuel surcharge are what will count. All other taxes, fees and add-ons will not count as qualifying spend. This means that a buy-up to First Class would count, because the revenue paid is in the fare. Co-pays and change fees, on the other hand, would not, because they're considered fees and not part of the ticket price. As you might imagine, we ultimately want to count fees and ancillary services as much as we can, but don’t want to commit to anything until after the program is well underway.

Originally Posted by SS255
Will there be any incentives for spending on the Presidential Plus MC? i.e., when we receive our 2,000 flex EQM's, will also CO "count" these towards PP status?
Not right off the bat, SS255, but possibly in the future. With specific regard to flexible EQMs, these wouldn't help you achieve Presidential Platinum, that is, unless you needed them to meet the must-be-a-Platinum-member pre-requisite.

Originally Posted by SS255
It is no secret that UA confers GS status on people who influence high volume travel on UA. Will CO be "gifiting" PP status to these people, as well?
It’s entirely within the realm of possibility, SS255, but no such on-ramp is currently planned.
Originally Posted by mikeef
Scott, question: rumor has it that 150K miles in a year gets you a date with Alex. Can you follow up?
Sorry, mikeef, she's not that kind of girl.
Originally Posted by TWA Fan 1
How will the$30k annual spend toward PPE be calculated? If a traveler has all of his or her travel paid by a corporate travel dept, are they out of luck?
Hi TWA Fan 1, it will be the traveler who gets the spend credit, not the purchaser.

Originally Posted by TWA Fan 1
How about someone like me who spends $60,000 to $80,000 a year traveling crews around the world? Would any of that count even though I'm spending it on others?
We do have programs to reward our high-volume purchasers, TWA Fan 1. Presidential Platinum just isn't one of them! Specifically, we have both RewardOne and the continental.com Club, which are designed to reward travel planners who purchase a lot of tickets with us.

Originally Posted by Live4Upgrade
This raises a good question. What happens to the current CO*STAR program?
Hi Live4Upgrade, we are still evaluating if and how the CoStar program will co-exist with our Presidential Platinum status. No update to give at this time.
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