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Old Nov 15, 2009, 5:35 pm
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Originally Posted by sushibear
Sounds just like AF and KLM on many/most? of their planes. I haven't been on a European flight with a 2-2 on their larger planes since I flew Alitalia on an MD88.
I have a flown a lot of intra-Europe AF and some KL as well.

Same here; there are no mini seats.

In the so-called business section, the middle seat folds down so that there is a 2-2 arrangement. But if that seat is returned to its upright position, it is a standard economy seat.

On many Euro carriers, the "biz" section is variable, depending on how many biz tix they sell. So they just move the curtain back and forth and raise or lower these middle seats as a function of how many people are buying business-class tickets.

Here is an example of this arrangement, on the AF A-318:

http://www.seatguru.com/airlines/Air...irbus_A318.php

The black marks indicate standard seats that fold down to create table tops. If AF sells fewer Affaires seats and more Tempo seats, then these middle seats are placed back in the upright position and the curtain is moved toward the front of the cabin.

This arrangement, btw, is one of the reasons flying Euro Biz is such a rip off.
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