After chatting with an offduty DT general manager over a couple of beers I am convinced that lisadiamond's analysis is on the mark. I learned that to date 1Q stays at Hiltons in the southeast are down 15% According to the GM its because individual one and two night bookings, generally profitable biz traveler stays, are way down. Conventions, trade shows etc remain the same. At the same time the Atlanta T&C Bureau claims hotel occupancy rates are up. Why the disparity? The GM believes that the changes to the Honors program by Hilton corporate are a big reason. So not only are Honors members hurt by the changes, the individual hotels are also affected. The bottom line, its not about dimunition of benefits, point valuation or devaluation or point inflation or deflation, or anything else I've read about on this Board, its about customer perception. When Honors mmebers feel unappreciated they vote with their feet and stay elsewhere.