THX, but I don't follow - u disapprove of abbreviations? Don't start "texting" with the young generation at any rate, it's ALL abbreviations.. ANYWAYS I guess there is a game here, and I am a rookie at it & need 2 invest some time learning it, then root around till I get what I want. While I have peoples attention re: travel 2 OZ, does one get the visa BEFORE the plane tickets are procured or afterwards? Chicken and egg I suppose.