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Old Dec 4, 2008 | 5:09 pm
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(FARE GONE) DL/AF: DFW-Europe, from $387 a/i.

Found on expedia, but it won't give me a fare basis. And, since I know little about Skyteam, I'll let an expert figure that out.

No minimum stay; immediate weekend turn-arounds possible to most destinations with no fare-premium.

Sample booking dates: 01/24 - 01/25.

FRA looks to be the cheapest destination, with other German cities a few dollars more. Many European destinations available for under $450 a/i.
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Old Dec 4, 2008 | 5:21 pm
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Looks like the booking class is N.

Air France AF DFWFRA NLSL73 fare rules and restrictions
General notes:

BASIC SEASON INSTANT PURCHASE N
NONREFUNDABLE FARES
When origin is THE UNITED STATES to AREA 2 FOR ROUND TRIP FARES
FOR ADULT


Seasonal restrictions:

PERMITTED 05DEC 08 THROUGH 31MAR 09 ON THE OUTBOUND
TRANSATLANTIC SECTOR.


Flight restrictions:

THE FARE COMPONENT MUST NOT BE ON
ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING
ANY LH FLIGHT
ANY IB FLIGHT
ANY LX FLIGHT
ANY FC FLIGHT
ANY SK FLIGHT
ANY AA FLIGHT
ANY US FLIGHT
ANY UA FLIGHT
ANY UU FLIGHT
ANY DT FLIGHT
ANY PK FLIGHT
ANY JS FLIGHT
ANY FG FLIGHT
ANY GA FLIGHT
ANY QZ FLIGHT
ANY 3Y FLIGHT
ANY RI FLIGHT
ANY MZ FLIGHT
ANY 7P FLIGHT
ANY AW FLIGHT
ANY RW FLIGHT
ANY NV FLIGHT
ANY DC FLIGHT
ANY QH FLIGHT
ANY R8 FLIGHT
ANY O3 FLIGHT
ANY I7 FLIGHT
ANY ZC FLIGHT
ANY Q4 FLIGHT
ANY EO FLIGHT
ANY BA FLIGHT
ANY W5 FLIGHT
ANY UF FLIGHT
ANY KF FLIGHT
ANY C2 FLIGHT
ANY OD FLIGHT
ANY K9 FLIGHT
ANY X7 FLIGHT
ANY FT FLIGHT.
AND
IF THE FARE COMPONENT INCLUDES TRAVEL BETWEEN THE UNITED
STATES AND CANADA
THEN THAT TRAVEL MUST BE ON
ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING
ANY DL FLIGHT.


Advanced reservations and ticketing restrictions:

RESERVATIONS ARE REQUIRED FOR ALL SECTORS.
WHEN RESERVATIONS ARE MADE AT LEAST 100 DAYS BEFORE
DEPARTURE TICKETING MUST BE COMPLETED AT LEAST 93 DAYS
BEFORE DEPARTURE.
OR - RESERVATIONS ARE REQUIRED FOR ALL SECTORS.
WHEN RESERVATIONS ARE MADE AT LEAST 11 DAYS BEFORE
DEPARTURE TICKETING MUST BE COMPLETED WITHIN 7 DAYS
AFTER RESERVATIONS ARE MADE OR AT LEAST 10 DAYS
BEFORE DEPARTURE WHICHEVER IS EARLIER.
OR - RESERVATIONS ARE REQUIRED FOR ALL SECTORS.
TICKETING MUST BE COMPLETED WITHIN 1 DAY AFTER
RESERVATIONS ARE MADE.
NOTE -
DIFFERENCE COULD EXIST BETWEEN THE CRS
LAST TICKETING DATE AND TTL ROBOT REMARK.
THE MOST RESTRICTIVE DATE PREVAILS.


Minimum stay restrictions:

RETURN TRAVEL FROM INBOUND TRANSATLANTIC SECTOR MUST
COMMENCE NO EARLIER THAN THE FIRST SUN AFTER DEPARTURE OF
THE OUTBOUND TRANSATLANTIC SECTOR.


Maximum stay restrictions:

TRAVEL FROM LAST STOPOVER MUST COMMENCE NO LATER THAN 1
MONTH AFTER DEPARTURE FROM FARE ORIGIN.


Stopovers:

2 FREE STOPOVERS PERMITTED - 1 IN EACH DIRECTION IN PAR.


Transfers:

UNLIMITED TRANSFERS PERMITTED ON THE FARE COMPONENT
FARE BREAK SURFACE SECTORS NOT PERMITTED AND EMBEDDED
SURFACE SECTORS PERMITTED ON THE FARE COMPONENT.
NOTE -
OR AS PER ROUTING REQUIREMENT WHEN EXISTS


Combinability restrictions:

DOUBLE OPEN JAWS NOT PERMITTED.
ADD-ONS PERMITTED.
END-ON-END
END-ON-END COMBINATIONS PERMITTED WITH DOMESTIC FARES
BUT ARE NOT PERMITTED WITH INTERNATIONAL FARES. VALIDATE
ALL FARE COMPONENTS. FARES MUST BE SHOWN SEPARATELY ON
THE TICKET. TRAVEL MUST BE VIA THE POINT OF COMBINATION.
OPEN JAWS/ROUND TRIPS/CIRCLE TRIPS
FARES MAY BE COMBINED ON A HALF ROUND TRIP BASIS
-TO FORM SINGLE OPEN JAWS
-TO FORM ROUND TRIPS/CIRCLE TRIPS.
PROVIDED -
COMBINATIONS ARE WITH ANY REGULAR EXCURSION/ROUND TRIP
INSTANT PURCHASE/REGULAR APEX/APEX NONREFUNDABLE/SUPER/
SPECIAL APEX/SUPER/SPECIAL INSTANT PURCHASE/4TH LEVEL
EXCURSION FARE/SPECIAL EXCURSION/INSTANT PURCHASE 3RD
LEVEL/REGULAR EXCURSION 3RD LEVEL/5TH LEVEL EXCURSION
FARE/EXCURSION NON-DISCOUNTABLE/ADVANCE PURCHASE 2ND
LEVEL/3RD LEVEL ADVANCE PURCHASE/SECOND LEVEL SUPER/
SPECIAL APEX-TYPE FARES FOR CARRIER DL/KL/NW/AF IN ANY
RULE IN THIS TARIFF.
COMBINATIONS ARE WITH ANY INSTANT PURCHASE 2ND LEVEL/
INSTANT PURCHASE 3RD LEVEL/4TH LEVEL INSTANT PURCHASE/
5TH LEVEL INSTANT PURCHASE/BUSINESS CLASS PROMOTIONAL/
INSTANT PURCHASE NONREFUNDABLE-TYPE FARES FOR CARRIER
DL/KL/NW/AF IN ANY RULE IN THIS TARIFF.


Blackout dates:

TRAVEL IS NOT PERMITTED 17DEC 08 THROUGH 25DEC 08.


Surcharges:

ORIGINATING THE UNITED STATES -
A SURCHARGE OF USD 100.00 PER DIRECTION WILL BE ADDED TO
THE APPLICABLE FARE FOR TRAVEL.


Sales restrictions:

TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON/BEFORE 09DEC 08.


Penalties:

CHANGES
BEFORE DEPARTURE
CHANGES NOT PERMITTED.
NOTE -
-1- BEFORE DEPARTURE OF JOURNEY AND BEFORE
ORIGINALLY SCHEDULED FLIGHT
--------------------------------------------------
THE NEW BASE FARE AMOUNT MUST BE RECALCULATED
USING CURRENT AND APPLICABLE FARES IN EFFECT AT
THE DATE OF REISSUE UNDER FOLLOWING CONDITIONS
- CHANGE OR REROUTING WITH SAME FARE BASIS --
SEASONS/MIDWEEK/WEEKEND MAY BE DIFFERENT
THE NEW BASE FARE AMOUNT MAY BE LOWER - EQUAL OR
HIGHER THAN PREVIOUS
- CHANGE OR REROUTING OR UPG TO ANY SPECIAL FARE
THE NEW BASE FARE AMOUNT MUST BE EQUAL OR HIGHER
THAN PREVIOUS
- CHANGE OR REROUTING OR UPG TO ANY NORMAL FARE
THE NEW BASE FARE AMOUNT MAY BE LOWER - EQUAL OR
HIGHER THAN PREVIOUS
------------------------------------------------
CHANGES NOT PERMITTED IN CASE OF NO-SHOW.
NOTE -
-2- BEFORE DEPARTURE OF JOURNEY BUT AFTER
ORIGINALLY SCHEDULED FLIGHT /NO-SHOW/
--------------------------------------------------
CHANGES OR REROUTING ARE NOT PERMITTED
REFER TO REFUND CONDITIONS.
--------------------------------------------------
AFTER DEPARTURE
CHANGES NOT PERMITTED.
NOTE -
-3- AFTER DEPARTURE OF JOURNEY
--------------------------------------------------
THE NEW BASE FARE AMOUNT MUST BE RECALCULATED BY
USING HISTORICAL AND APPLICABLE FARES IN EFFECT
AT THE ORIGINAL TICKET DATE UNDER FOLLOWING
CONDITIONS
- CHANGE OR REROUTING WITH SAME FARE BASIS --
SEASONS/MIDWEEK/WEEKEND MAY BE DIFFERENT
THE NEW BASE FARE AMOUNT MAY BE LOWER - EQUAL OR
HIGHER THAN PREVIOUS
- CHANGE OR REROUTING OR UPG TO ANY SPECIAL FARER
THE NEW BASE FARE AMOUNT MUST BE EQUAL OR
HIGHER THAN PREVIOUS
- CHANGE OR REROUTING OR UPG TO ANY NORMAL FARE
THE NEW BASE FARE AMOUNT MAY BE LOWER - EQUAL OR
HIGHER THAN PREVIOUS
CANCELLATIONS
TICKET IS NON-REFUNDABLE IN CASE OF CANCEL.
NOTE -
---------------- REFUND ----------------------
-1- BEFORE DEPARTURE OF JOURNEY AND BEFORE
ORIGINALLY SCHEDULED FLIGHT
TICKET IS NON REFUNDABLE
--------------------------------------------------
-2- BEFORE DEPARTURE OF JOURNEY BUT AFTER
ORIGINALLY SCHEDULED FLIGHT /NO-SHOW/
TICKET IS NON REFUNDABLE
-------------------------------------------------
-3- AFTER DEPARTURE OF JOURNEY
TICKET IS NON REFUNDABLE


NOTE -
AT ANY TIME - IN CASE OF REFUND - PAPER TICKET
SURCHARGE IS NOT REFUNDABLE WHEN APPLIED.


Higher intermediate points (HIP) exceptions:

THE HIGHER INTERMEDIATE POINT RULE DOES NOT APPLY FOR
CONNECTIONS.
AND - THE HIGHER INTERMEDIATE POINT RULE DOES NOT APPLY
FOR STOPOVERS.


Endorsements:

THE ORIGINAL TICKET MUST BE ANNOTATED - NON-REF - IN THE
FORM OF PAYMENT BOX.
AND - THE ORIGINAL TICKET MUST BE ANNOTATED - NON-ENDORS-
IN THE ENDORSEMENT BOX.
THE REISSUED TICKET MUST BE ANNOTATED - NONREF - IN THE
FORM OF PAYMENT BOX.
AND - THE REISSUED TICKET MUST BE ANNOTATED - AF ONLY - IN
THE ENDORSEMENT BOX.


Children's discounts:

ACCOMPANIED CHILD 2-11 - CHARGE 100 PERCENT OF THE FARE.
TICKET DESIGNATOR - CH.
MUST BE ACCOMPANIED ON ALL FLIGHTS IN SAME COMPARTMENT
BY ADULT 18 OR OLDER.
1ST INFANT UNDER 2 WITH A SEAT - CHARGE 100 PERCENT OF THE
FARE.
TICKET DESIGNATOR - CH.
MUST BE ACCOMPANIED ON ALL FLIGHTS IN SAME
COMPARTMENT BY ADULT 18 OR OLDER.
NOTE -
FOR SECURITY REASONS - MAX 1 INFANT PER ESCORT.
1ST INFANT UNDER 2 WITHOUT A SEAT - CHARGE 10 PERCENT OF
THE FARE.
TICKET DESIGNATOR - IN.
MUST BE ACCOMPANIED ON ALL FLIGHTS IN SAME
COMPARTMENT BY ADULT 18 OR OLDER.
NOTE -
FOR SECURITY REASONS - MAX 1 INFANT PER ESCORT.
UNACCOMPANIED CHILD 5-11 - CHARGE 100 PERCENT OF THE FARE.
TICKET DESIGNATOR - UM.


Miscellaneous fare tags:

THIS FARE MAY NOT BE USED TO CALCULATE A DIFFERENTIAL.


Voluntary changes:

IN THE EVENT OF CHANGES TO TICKETED FLIGHTS
BEFORE DEPARTURE OF JOURNEY AND WITHIN TKT VALIDITY
CERTAIN DOMESTIC REISSUE PROVISIONS MAY BE OVERRIDDEN BY
THOSE OF AF INTERNATIONAL FARES
CHARGE USD 200.00 OR HIGHEST FEE OF ANY CHANGED FARE
COMPONENT WITHIN JOURNEY - CATEGORY 19 DISCOUNT APPLIES
AND
REPRICE USING FARES IN EFFECT TODAY
PROVIDED ALL OF THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS ARE MET-
1. WHEN NO INTL COUPONS REMAIN - ALL NEW TRAVEL MUST
BE DOMESTIC
2. CHANGE IS BEFORE ORIGINAL SCHEDULED FLIGHT
3. AF -SL FARE FAMILY GOVERNED BY IPRA IS USED
4. VALIDATE ADVANCE RES REQUIREMENTS WHEN BOOKING
DATE KNOWN
5. ADV RES IS MEASURED FROM REISSUE DATE TO DEPARTURE
OF PRICING UNIT
OR -
REPRICE USING FARES IN EFFECT TODAY
PROVIDED ALL OF THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS ARE MET-
1. WHEN NO INTL COUPONS REMAIN - ALL NEW TRAVEL MUST
BE DOMESTIC
2. CHANGE IS BEFORE ORIGINAL SCHEDULED FLIGHT
3. AF SPECIAL FARES GOVERNED BY IPRA ARE USED
4. NEW TKT HAS EQUAL OR HIGHER VALUE THAN PREVIOUS
TKT
5. VALIDATE ADVANCE RES REQUIREMENTS WHEN BOOKING
DATE KNOWN
6. ADV RES IS MEASURED FROM REISSUE DATE TO DEPARTURE
OF PRICING UNIT
OR -
REPRICE USING FARES IN EFFECT TODAY
PROVIDED ALL OF THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS ARE MET-
1. WHEN NO INTL COUPONS REMAIN - ALL NEW TRAVEL MUST
BE DOMESTIC
2. CHANGE IS BEFORE ORIGINAL SCHEDULED FLIGHT
3. AF NORMAL FARES GOVERNED BY IPRA ARE USED
4. VALIDATE ADVANCE RES REQUIREMENTS WHEN BOOKING
DATE KNOWN
5. ADV RES IS MEASURED FROM REISSUE DATE TO DEPARTURE
OF PRICING UNIT
OR -
REPRICE USING CURRENT FARES - ONLY BOOKING CODE
CHANGES PERMITTED
PROVIDED ALL OF THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS ARE MET-
1. WHEN NO INTL COUPONS REMAIN - ALL NEW TRAVEL MUST
BE DOMESTIC
2. CHANGE IS BEFORE ORIGINAL SCHEDULED FLIGHT
3. AF FARES ARE USED
4. PRIVATE TARIFFS ARE INCLUDED
5. VALIDATE ADVANCE RES REQUIREMENTS WHEN BOOKING
DATE KNOWN
6. ADV RES IS MEASURED FROM REISSUE DATE TO DEPARTURE
OF PRICING UNIT
REFUND VIA MCO
ENDORSEMENT BOX- HIGHER NON-REF AMT AND NEW ENDORSEMENTS.
OR -
BEFORE DEPARTURE OF JOURNEY AND WITHIN TKT VALIDITY
CHANGES NOT PERMITTED/REFUND TKT-ANY REMAINING AMT WILL
APPLY TO NEW TKT
PROVIDED ALL OF THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS ARE MET-
1. CHANGE IS AFTER ORIGINAL SCHEDULED FLIGHT.
OR -
AFTER DEPARTURE OF JOURNEY AND WITHIN TKT VALIDITY
CERTAIN DOMESTIC REISSUE PROVISIONS MAY BE OVERRIDDEN BY
THOSE OF AF INTERNATIONAL FARES
CHARGE USD 200.00 OR HIGHEST FEE OF ANY CHANGED FARE
COMPONENT WITHIN JOURNEY - CATEGORY 19 DISCOUNT APPLIES
AND
REPRICE USING FARES IN EFFECT WHEN TKT WAS ISSUED
PROVIDED ALL OF THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS ARE MET-
1. WHEN NO INTL COUPONS REMAIN - ALL NEW TRAVEL MUST
BE DOMESTIC
2. FULLY FLOWN FARE NOT REPRICED TO FURTHER POINT
3. AF -SL FARE FAMILY GOVERNED BY IPRA IS USED
4. ALL RULE AND BOOKING CODE PROVISIONS ARE MET
5. VALIDATE ADVANCE RES REQUIREMENTS WHEN BOOKING
DATE KNOWN
6. ADV RES IS MEASURED FROM ORIGINAL TKT DATE TO
DEPARTURE OF PRICING UNIT
OR -
REPRICE USING FARES IN EFFECT WHEN TKT WAS ISSUED
PROVIDED ALL OF THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS ARE MET-
1. WHEN NO INTL COUPONS REMAIN - ALL NEW TRAVEL MUST
BE DOMESTIC
2. FULLY FLOWN FARE NOT REPRICED TO FURTHER POINT
3. AF SPECIAL FARES GOVERNED BY IPRA ARE USED
4. NEW TKT HAS EQUAL OR HIGHER VALUE THAN PREVIOUS
TKT
5. ALL RULE AND BOOKING CODE PROVISIONS ARE MET
6. VALIDATE ADVANCE RES REQUIREMENTS WHEN BOOKING
DATE KNOWN
7. ADV RES IS MEASURED FROM ORIGINAL TKT DATE TO
DEPARTURE OF PRICING UNIT
OR -
REPRICE USING FARES IN EFFECT WHEN TKT WAS ISSUED
PROVIDED ALL OF THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS ARE MET-
1. WHEN NO INTL COUPONS REMAIN - ALL NEW TRAVEL MUST
BE DOMESTIC
2. FULLY FLOWN FARE NOT REPRICED TO FURTHER POINT
3. AF NORMAL FARES GOVERNED BY IPRA ARE USED
4. ALL RULE AND BOOKING CODE PROVISIONS ARE MET
5. VALIDATE ADVANCE RES REQUIREMENTS WHEN BOOKING
DATE KNOWN
6. ADV RES IS MEASURED FROM ORIGINAL TKT DATE TO
DEPARTURE OF PRICING UNIT
REFUND VIA MCO
ENDORSEMENT BOX- HIGHER NON-REF AMT AND NEW ENDORSEMENTS.


Rule application:

AIR FRANCE - SALES FARES FROM THE U.S.A. TO AREA 2 AND 3
APPLICATION
AREA
THESE FARES APPLY
FROM THE UNITED STATES TO AREA 2/AREA 3.
CLASS OF SERVICE
THESE FARES APPLY FOR ECONOMY CLASS SERVICE.
TYPES OF TRANSPORTATION
THIS RULE GOVERNS ROUND-TRIP FARES.
FARES GOVERNED BY THIS RULE CAN BE USED TO CREATE
ROUND-TRIP/CIRCLE-TRIP/SINGLE OPEN-JAW/DOUBLE OPEN-JAW
JOURNEYS.
THESE FARES DO NOT APPLY RETROACTIVELY.
THESE FARES APPLY ONLY WHEN SUCH FARES ARE
PURCHASED PRIOR TO COMMENCEMNET OF TRAVEL.
CAPACITY LIMITATIONS
THE CARRIER SHALL LIMIT THE NUMBER OF PASSENGERS CARRIED
ON ANY ONE FLIGHT AT FARES GOVERNED BY THIS RULE AND SUCH
FARES WILL NOT NECESSARILY BE AVAILABLE ON ALL FLIGHTS.
THE NUMBER OF SEATS WHICH THE CARRIER SHALL MAKE
AVAILABLE ON A GIVEN FLIGHT WILL BE DETERMINED BY THE
CARRIERS BEST JUDGMENT
OTHER CONDITIONS
THE FARE THAT APPLIES ON THE DATE OF PURCHASE
IS ONLY VALID FOR THE ENTIRE ITINERARY AND THE
SPECIFIC TRAVEL DATES MENTIONED ON THE TICKET.
ANY MODIFICATION MAY REQUIRE THE PAYMENT OF AN
ADDITIONAL AMOUNT.
FULL AND SEQUENTIAL USE OF FLIGHT COUPONS-
THE TICKET/ OR ELECTRONIC TICKET / IS NOT VALID IF
THE FIRST COUPON HAS NOT BEEN USED AND WILL NOT
BE HONORED IF ALL THE COUPONS ARE NOT USED IN THE
SEQUENCE PROVIDED IN THE TICKET / OR ELECTRONIC
TICKET / .
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Old Dec 4, 2008 | 5:22 pm
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Old Dec 4, 2008 | 5:23 pm
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If crediting to NW avoid AF metal and stick to DL metal. N on AF coded/operated is 25% miles.
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Old Dec 5, 2008 | 12:33 am
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Originally Posted by humanoid94
If crediting to NW avoid AF metal and stick to DL metal. N on AF coded/operated is 25% miles.
As FB member Northwest will also give you only 25%
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Old Dec 5, 2008 | 1:06 am
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seems to be gone?

I saw the fare basis in expertflyer a few minutes ago, but must have been reset @ 2AM Central..
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