Number of people complaining about less upgrades to F
#46
Join Date: Mar 2008
Programs: AA Platinum, HHonors Gold, Alamo Insiders, Hertz #1 Gold
Posts: 191
Interesting to read the thread. I recently as a Silver just did a TC PHL-LAX RT. I was not expecting upgrades as it is elite-heavy. I took the first AM flight on a Saturday and got the upgrade right at the Silver window. On my red-eye back, no upgrade could be confirmed, at 23:59 I checked in online and put myself on the waitlist. At about 12hrs before the flight, I do a dummy book and see that I could buy a non-refundable F, so I went back into OLCI and checked in (again) but changed my seat to which it offered me a Preferred First Class Upgrade.
More proof that the UG system doesn't work... theoretically, I suppose I should have been auto-upgraded from the waitlist. F was full, I'm pretty sure I was the only Silver (saw the manifest) in F.
Still disappointing to see that the PDB on the East-operated flight westbound still consisted of water or water
More proof that the UG system doesn't work... theoretically, I suppose I should have been auto-upgraded from the waitlist. F was full, I'm pretty sure I was the only Silver (saw the manifest) in F.
Still disappointing to see that the PDB on the East-operated flight westbound still consisted of water or water
#47
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: New Hampshire
Programs: AA EXP Hilton Diamond
Posts: 543
New issue today. I'm 2 days away from my flight, so within the silver upgrade window. I got an email this morning saying that no First seats were available, but low an behold there were 4 empty First seats on the seating chart for my flight. I called the US reservations 800 line and they upgraded me over the phone. Just another sign that the automatic upgrade system cannot be relied on.
#48
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: PHL
Programs: AA Executive Platinum; Hilton Diamond
Posts: 2,663
Interesting to read the thread. I recently as a Silver just did a TC PHL-LAX RT. I was not expecting upgrades as it is elite-heavy. I took the first AM flight on a Saturday and got the upgrade right at the Silver window. On my red-eye back, no upgrade could be confirmed, at 23:59 I checked in online and put myself on the waitlist. At about 12hrs before the flight, I do a dummy book and see that I could buy a non-refundable F, so I went back into OLCI and checked in (again) but changed my seat to which it offered me a Preferred First Class Upgrade.
More proof that the UG system doesn't work... theoretically, I suppose I should have been auto-upgraded from the waitlist. F was full, I'm pretty sure I was the only Silver (saw the manifest) in F.
Still disappointing to see that the PDB on the East-operated flight westbound still consisted of water or water
More proof that the UG system doesn't work... theoretically, I suppose I should have been auto-upgraded from the waitlist. F was full, I'm pretty sure I was the only Silver (saw the manifest) in F.
Still disappointing to see that the PDB on the East-operated flight westbound still consisted of water or water
#49
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: DCA
Programs: AA PPro, Mariott Ambassador, B6 Mosaic, SBUX Gold, Best Buy Elite
Posts: 1,838
#50
Suspended
Join Date: Mar 2012
Programs: US CP ; LH FTL ; *G
Posts: 1,630
I believe that with the new OLCI you can change your seats at check-in, but not after.
This is absolutely right. US sometimes would hold F seats on high-demand routes for IRROPs protection or in attempt to sell the seat in F fare class. They don't have to upgrade SP just because some seats in F are open. They do have to upgrade SP before offering upgrades to O class to non-preferreds though.
This is not correct. Just because there are open F seats it does not mean that they have been opened into the (O) upgrade inventory. Seats are often held back for revenue right up to T-24 and sometimes beyond. It is against the rules for the CSR's to take a call and do an upgrade. By the CSR doing the upgrade they are pontentialy jumping over someone else in the queue. This is supposed to be a 100% automated process. There are many issues with US, but I've always found that the upgrade process to be very accurate and straight forward.
#51
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: DCA
Programs: AA PPro, Mariott Ambassador, B6 Mosaic, SBUX Gold, Best Buy Elite
Posts: 1,838
#52
Join Date: Jan 2006
Programs: AA EXP, Hyatt Globalist
Posts: 313
I believe that with the new OLCI you can change your seats at check-in, but not after.
This is absolutely right. US sometimes would hold F seats on high-demand routes for IRROPs protection or in attempt to sell the seat in F fare class. They don't have to upgrade SP just because some seats in F are open. They do have to upgrade SP before offering upgrades to O class to non-preferreds though.
This is absolutely right. US sometimes would hold F seats on high-demand routes for IRROPs protection or in attempt to sell the seat in F fare class. They don't have to upgrade SP just because some seats in F are open. They do have to upgrade SP before offering upgrades to O class to non-preferreds though.
#53
Join Date: Jun 2008
Programs: TK*G (E+), IHG Plat Ambassador
Posts: 7,884
I am relatively new to US (BD refuge), but I am really impressed with US upgrade process. My work does not require me to fly on Friday afternoons & Monday mornings (but I do travel on Sunday afternoons) and as a PLAT I am 100% upgraded in my window (when I was Silver my upgrade cleared 20% in the window plus 30% at the gate, for Gold the numbers were 40%/40%, respectively, and now it is 100% in window - not even a single airport stand-by).
Another thing... Do you think that maybe UA elites really started abandoning UA to move to US? Could it be the case? Talking to my co-workers (I am not from the States, but I am on a temporary assignment here) US has a terrible reputation... But, if you look at UA forum there quite a few unhappy folks over there...
Another thing... Do you think that maybe UA elites really started abandoning UA to move to US? Could it be the case? Talking to my co-workers (I am not from the States, but I am on a temporary assignment here) US has a terrible reputation... But, if you look at UA forum there quite a few unhappy folks over there...
#55
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: PHL
Programs: Hyatt Globalist, Hilton Diamond, AA Gold, FB Gold, ITA Volare Executive
Posts: 3,294
Another thing... Do you think that maybe UA elites really started abandoning UA to move to US? Could it be the case? Talking to my co-workers (I am not from the States, but I am on a temporary assignment here) US has a terrible reputation... But, if you look at UA forum there quite a few unhappy folks over there...
So you want to profit from what's around you while a good reputation is being made, and jump ship before it is fully squandered.