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Quick Links
PHX Links
Official Website of Phoenix Sky Harbor International Airport
PHX Sky Harbor: Frequently Asked Questions pages(Dining, shops, parking, art, museum)
Link to archived posts 2009-2013.This is to give travelers an idea how to navigate through PHX (locals call it "Sky Harbor").
NOTE: There are an increasing number of flights arriving at Phoenix/Mesa Gateway airport (the former Williams Air Force Base). This is NOT PHX/Sky Harbor. Typically Allegiant and charter flights will arrive/depart from Gateway. Official Website of Phoenix-Mesa/Gateway Airport.
PHX Terminal 4 - AA uses the four concourses shown as "A" and "B"
The terminal map website is PHX T4 Map It includes terminal maps plus shops and restaurants by terminal.
AA in PHX
AA operates flights out of Terminal 4 (also called the Barry Goldwater Terminal), concourses A and B (basically the North side of T4). There are four concourses on the north side of terminal 4. The west two are the A concourses, and the east two are the B concourses. They are served by the A and B security checkpoints respectively.
The A and B concourses are divided into low and high, based on the gate numbers. The low A and B gates are directly across from the the security checkpoints. The high A and B require a trip down a walkway.
General Rules for Gates
Check-in
At PHX, you must be checked in:
Security
Security wait times can vary widely both by time/day and by concourse. Generally, wait times seem to be longer at the B gates, but that is my personal experience.
AA has priority lines at both of the A and B security checkpoints in T4. Some days, it could be a wash or even longer, while others it can save a considerable amount of time. Personally, as a AA elite, I've never had to wait more than 5 minutes.
If non-elite, waits vary considerably. Ig is possible to wait for 45+ minutes.
Connection Times
Domestic Connections
Connecting flight info monitors can be found at the start of each concourse, except for the High B concourse, then also at the following locations -
High A concourse: in front of gates A19, A23 & A24;
Low A concourse: in front of gates A3, A5, above the payphones between A8 & A10;
Low B concourse: in front of gates B3, B5, B10;
High B concourse: across from the Cinnabon, in front of gates B19 & B21.
It takes an average of 5 minutes to walk the length of a concourse, ie: from Gate A17 down to Gate A30, etc. If you are going from one concourse to another it takes 5 minutes if you just sit on the moving sidewalks and let the machine haul you (sometimes out for repair). So to get from Gate A30 to: Gate A13 would take about 15 min; to Gate B13 - 20 min and to Gate B28 - 30 min. Walking on the moving sidewalks will cut the time down by about 40%. Just remember - when on the moving sidewalks, in the USA we stand on the right, walk on the left and if you look down on the start platform of each one you will see images reminding you that NO strollers, wheelchairs or baggage trollies are allowed on the moving sidewalks.
Passenger Assistance Counters can be found next to Gates A19, A4, B4 and B19.
Baggage Storage
"Unfortunately, due to federal security restrictions imposed by the Transportation Security Administration, we do not offer any storage at the airport. We recommend that you check with the airline you are flying to see how early you can check in your luggage or other items.”
Transportation
Parking
PHX-Sky Harbor Airport operates long-term parking (East and West economy lots) as well as in-terminal parking. More info here
However, it is becoming more common to use off-airport parking. There are several companies including (but not limited to): PreFlight, FastTrack, and Parking Spot. Discounts abound, and it can be less for covered parking off-airport than non-covered in an economy lot.
Rental Cars
PHX Airport Rental Cars
There is a single airport rental car center located about 3 miles West of the airport. A single shuttle makes rounds from the terminals to the center.
Note: you may save some money (could be rather significant) if you rent from an off-airport location. With the Phoenix light rail, it may be possible to take the rail and/or have them pick you up. Alternatively, some hotels (especially resorts) have a car rental desk on-site.
Taxi
Taxi – a minimum $15 to leave the airport (others, help me out).
Public Transportation
Bus & Light Rail information and Schedules
PHX Sky Train connects the terminals, economy parking, the rental car center, and the light rail.
Food, Drinks & Lounges
Where to Eat
Inside Security
Low A Concourse has Modern Burger, Olive & Ivy and Panda Express; table service is at Blanco Tacos & Tequila.
High A Concourse has Delux, Humble Pie Pizza and Pei Wei; table service is at Four Peaks Brewery.
Low B Concourse has Burger King, Carvel, Pizza Hut, Quizzno's, and Starbucks; table service at The Roadhouse 66.
High B Concourse has Cinabonn, Kokopelli Deli, TCBY, Pretzel Yetzel, Pizza Hut; table service at the Home Turf. Outside Security If one has sufficient time between connecting flights or before a flight, the food selection, variety and quality is far superior outside of security than inside it. The area outside of security at gate level has undergone major renovations over the past few years.
Coffee
There is one Starbucks in PHX AA Terminal area, in High B. Peets is just off of the moving walkway as you approach the High A side.
Any other recommendations?
Lounges
Admirals Club
There are three lounges in PHX, one each in the low A and low B, and one in the high A area. Unless you have a flight from nearby, I would recommend NOT using the High A lounge; it is small and can get extremely crowded. From personal experience, the B lounge is generally not as busy as the others. (Note: check the LOUNGE DASHBOARD for information about lounge closures for refurbishment.)
Other Lounges
The Centurion Lounge is located across from Gate B21 and open 9AM to 7PM. Must be an American Express Platinum card holder to enter.
The Escape Lounge is also located across from Gate B21 and is open 8AM to 8PM. American Express Platinum card holders get free access, $40/day fee prebooked, $45/day walk-up fee.
Shower Facilities
"We do have very limited shower facilities. In Terminal 4 on the east end of Level 1 (baggage claim), the ladies and men's restrooms each have one shower stall. There is no fee for the use of these stalls. These are the only public showers in the Airport. All of our family restrooms have showers, but they are not intended for use by the general public. They are for people with special needs or passengers who are traveling with small children who have an unexpected need for shower facilities."
The "family restroom" with shower in T4 is located next to the men's room across from Gate A17; as mentioned, this restroom is not intended for general public use other than as noted.
Miscellaneous
Services
Other Airlines/Changing Terminals
Southwest, British Airways, AeroMexico all share T4 with American Airlines. It can be challenging getting from a high A gate to the new WN D gates behind security; there is a bridge from the high B area that connects with C (Southwest's area).
Other airlines/terminals:
Terminal 2: United (with a United Club) and others are in the 'old' terminal (there is no longer a T1).
T2 info
Terminal 3: T3 info
Getting between the terminals can be a chore. You must first exit security, then take the Sky Train between Terminals 3 and 4. There is a walkway between Terminals 2 and 3. Just follow the signs.
Wireless Internet
"Free Wi-Fi is provided in all terminals on both sides of security, in retail and restaurant areas and near the gates. Laptops or other devices configured to operate in a wireless mode will automatically connect to the Internet when powered up near the shops and gates."
Layover Q&A
Do I have time to go into town?If your layover is more than three hours (and I’m sure this is debatable), you may have time for a quick trip into the city.What to do in town? How do I get there?
Quick Links
PHX Links
Official Website of Phoenix Sky Harbor International Airport
PHX Sky Harbor: Frequently Asked Questions pages(Dining, shops, parking, art, museum)
Link to archived posts 2009-2013.This is to give travelers an idea how to navigate through PHX (locals call it "Sky Harbor").
NOTE: There are an increasing number of flights arriving at Phoenix/Mesa Gateway airport (the former Williams Air Force Base). This is NOT PHX/Sky Harbor. Typically Allegiant and charter flights will arrive/depart from Gateway. Official Website of Phoenix-Mesa/Gateway Airport.
PHX Terminal 4 - AA uses the four concourses shown as "A" and "B"The terminal map website is PHX T4 Map It includes terminal maps plus shops and restaurants by terminal.
AA in PHX
AA operates flights out of Terminal 4 (also called the Barry Goldwater Terminal), concourses A and B (basically the North side of T4). There are four concourses on the north side of terminal 4. The west two are the A concourses, and the east two are the B concourses. They are served by the A and B security checkpoints respectively.
The A and B concourses are divided into low and high, based on the gate numbers. The low A and B gates are directly across from the the security checkpoints. The high A and B require a trip down a walkway.
- Low A: Gates A1-A14
- High A: Gates A15-A30
- Low B: Gates B1-B14
- High B: Gates B15-B28
General Rules for Gates
- International flights (from Mexico and SJD) will arrive in the High B's area, as do other carrier international flights (BA from LHR) and depart ~B25
- While international flights (from other than YVR/YYC/YEG/YYZ) park at the high B gates, pax will pass through customs underneath the concourse and must exit outside the B security checkpoint and re-clear security for further flights.
- Flights from Mexico and Costa Rica will arrive at gates B23-B28 (Gate B22 is about to become an international arrival gate as well) and go down two levels to go through customs, et al, and will deposit outside security checkpoint B. Giving yourself an average of 45 min just to get from off the plane to the checkpoint is a good estimate. If your flight arrived at the same time as British Airways add another 30 min to that estimate.
- Eagle operated flights will depart only from Gates B1, B3, B5, B7, B9, B15, B16, B17, B18, B19, B20, B21, B22, and sometimes B24.
- Early and late night flights (first bank in the AM and red eyes to PHL, CLT, JFK, BOS, etc), usually leave from the low A concourse, gates 1-14 (more likely the end of that 10-14)
- Note some gates are close to each other and announcements can be confusing due to their proximity.
Check-in
At PHX, you must be checked in:
- At least 45 minutes before scheduled departure, for flights within the United States
- At least 60 minutes before scheduled departure, for flights to airports outside of the United States
- AA Executive Platinum / oneworld Emeralds Elites can use the First Class check-in, located towards the middle of the check-in level (note: it is sometimes faster to use the non-elite kiosk area)
- Non-elites have options of the main full-service ticketing line, or using one of the many kiosks towards the West end of the ticketing level (under the A concourse)
- If you've done online check-in, there is a desk on the right side of the kiosks that can do bags only (however, I've found it sometimes easier to just use a regular kiosk)
- International travel has its own check-in, toward the East side of the check-in level, marked by balloons
- Group travel also has its own marked check-in at the far East side of the check-in level
- There are also kiosks by every security check point (very convenient for checked baggage free travelers)
Security
Security wait times can vary widely both by time/day and by concourse. Generally, wait times seem to be longer at the B gates, but that is my personal experience.
AA has priority lines at both of the A and B security checkpoints in T4. Some days, it could be a wash or even longer, while others it can save a considerable amount of time. Personally, as a AA elite, I've never had to wait more than 5 minutes.
If non-elite, waits vary considerably. Ig is possible to wait for 45+ minutes.
Connection Times
Domestic Connections
- MCT Domestic AA to AA is 0:25, AAdomestic to AA or AY is 0:25. A reasonable 45 minute scheduled connection time should be sufficient for domestic connections (ie: SFO-PHX-BOS or ORD-PHX-MRY)
- STANDARD.D/D...D/I...I/D...I/I.
ONLINE 1.00 1.00 1.00 1.00
OFFLINE 1.00 1.00 1.00 1.00
** OR * ARE ALL
AA-AA ID 1.30 FLT 6100 - 6779 - FLT 1 - 6099
AA-AA ID .25 CANADA - ALL
AA-AA ID 1.00
AA-** ID 2.30
Connecting flight info monitors can be found at the start of each concourse, except for the High B concourse, then also at the following locations -
High A concourse: in front of gates A19, A23 & A24;
Low A concourse: in front of gates A3, A5, above the payphones between A8 & A10;
Low B concourse: in front of gates B3, B5, B10;
High B concourse: across from the Cinnabon, in front of gates B19 & B21.
It takes an average of 5 minutes to walk the length of a concourse, ie: from Gate A17 down to Gate A30, etc. If you are going from one concourse to another it takes 5 minutes if you just sit on the moving sidewalks and let the machine haul you (sometimes out for repair). So to get from Gate A30 to: Gate A13 would take about 15 min; to Gate B13 - 20 min and to Gate B28 - 30 min. Walking on the moving sidewalks will cut the time down by about 40%. Just remember - when on the moving sidewalks, in the USA we stand on the right, walk on the left and if you look down on the start platform of each one you will see images reminding you that NO strollers, wheelchairs or baggage trollies are allowed on the moving sidewalks.
Passenger Assistance Counters can be found next to Gates A19, A4, B4 and B19.
Baggage Storage
"Unfortunately, due to federal security restrictions imposed by the Transportation Security Administration, we do not offer any storage at the airport. We recommend that you check with the airline you are flying to see how early you can check in your luggage or other items.”
Transportation
Parking
PHX-Sky Harbor Airport operates long-term parking (East and West economy lots) as well as in-terminal parking. More info here
However, it is becoming more common to use off-airport parking. There are several companies including (but not limited to): PreFlight, FastTrack, and Parking Spot. Discounts abound, and it can be less for covered parking off-airport than non-covered in an economy lot.
Rental Cars
PHX Airport Rental Cars
There is a single airport rental car center located about 3 miles West of the airport. A single shuttle makes rounds from the terminals to the center.
Note: you may save some money (could be rather significant) if you rent from an off-airport location. With the Phoenix light rail, it may be possible to take the rail and/or have them pick you up. Alternatively, some hotels (especially resorts) have a car rental desk on-site.
Taxi
Taxi – a minimum $15 to leave the airport (others, help me out).
Public Transportation
Bus & Light Rail information and Schedules
PHX Sky Train connects the terminals, economy parking, the rental car center, and the light rail.
Food, Drinks & Lounges
Where to Eat
Inside Security
Low A Concourse has Modern Burger, Olive & Ivy and Panda Express; table service is at Blanco Tacos & Tequila.
High A Concourse has Delux, Humble Pie Pizza and Pei Wei; table service is at Four Peaks Brewery.
Low B Concourse has Burger King, Carvel, Pizza Hut, Quizzno's, and Starbucks; table service at The Roadhouse 66.
High B Concourse has Cinabonn, Kokopelli Deli, TCBY, Pretzel Yetzel, Pizza Hut; table service at the Home Turf. Outside Security If one has sufficient time between connecting flights or before a flight, the food selection, variety and quality is far superior outside of security than inside it. The area outside of security at gate level has undergone major renovations over the past few years.
Coffee
There is one Starbucks in PHX AA Terminal area, in High B. Peets is just off of the moving walkway as you approach the High A side.
Any other recommendations?
Lounges
Admirals Club
There are three lounges in PHX, one each in the low A and low B, and one in the high A area. Unless you have a flight from nearby, I would recommend NOT using the High A lounge; it is small and can get extremely crowded. From personal experience, the B lounge is generally not as busy as the others. (Note: check the LOUNGE DASHBOARD for information about lounge closures for refurbishment.)
Other Lounges
The Centurion Lounge is located across from Gate B21 and open 9AM to 7PM. Must be an American Express Platinum card holder to enter.
The Escape Lounge is also located across from Gate B21 and is open 8AM to 8PM. American Express Platinum card holders get free access, $40/day fee prebooked, $45/day walk-up fee.
Shower Facilities
"We do have very limited shower facilities. In Terminal 4 on the east end of Level 1 (baggage claim), the ladies and men's restrooms each have one shower stall. There is no fee for the use of these stalls. These are the only public showers in the Airport. All of our family restrooms have showers, but they are not intended for use by the general public. They are for people with special needs or passengers who are traveling with small children who have an unexpected need for shower facilities."
The "family restroom" with shower in T4 is located next to the men's room across from Gate A17; as mentioned, this restroom is not intended for general public use other than as noted.
Miscellaneous
Services
- There is a Currency Exchange cart near Cinnabon, next to Gate B15, on the high B concourse. It has limited hours.
- Shoe Shine Stand are located next to Gates A17 and B15.
- The Duty Free store can be found next to Gate B17.
Other Airlines/Changing Terminals
Southwest, British Airways, AeroMexico all share T4 with American Airlines. It can be challenging getting from a high A gate to the new WN D gates behind security; there is a bridge from the high B area that connects with C (Southwest's area).
Other airlines/terminals:
Terminal 2: United (with a United Club) and others are in the 'old' terminal (there is no longer a T1).
T2 info
Terminal 3: T3 info
Getting between the terminals can be a chore. You must first exit security, then take the Sky Train between Terminals 3 and 4. There is a walkway between Terminals 2 and 3. Just follow the signs.
Wireless Internet
"Free Wi-Fi is provided in all terminals on both sides of security, in retail and restaurant areas and near the gates. Laptops or other devices configured to operate in a wireless mode will automatically connect to the Internet when powered up near the shops and gates."
Layover Q&A
Do I have time to go into town?If your layover is more than three hours (and I’m sure this is debatable), you may have time for a quick trip into the city.
What to do in town? How do I get there?
Downtown Tempe/Mill Ave
See: US Airways HQ (company store open to public), Tempe Town Lake (boat rentals, fishing, walk/run paths), 'A' Mountain (an easy climb), as well as a multitude of restaurants, bars, shops....oh and don't forget ASU, including Sun Devil Stadium
Eat: House of Tricks, Culinary Dropout
Go: Easy via PHX Sky Train to light rail, rail to either Mill Ave or Stadium stops. Rail cost is currently $2.00 each way/$4.00 for All-Day pass.
Downtown Phoenix
See: The Arizona Center, Chase Field (where the Diamondbacks play, but most locals still call it, "BOB"), Talking Stick Resort Arena (where the Phoenix Suns play, but most locals still call it, "AWA" or, "America West Arena")
Eat: Pizzaria Bianco (the 'best' pizza in the USA), Hard Rock Cafe, Alice Cooperstown, Arrogant Butcher, Durant's
Go: Although it is possible to take the rail, the easiest way is cab. Bus also goes, depending on day of week/time of day.
Old Town Scottsdale
See: Fashion Square Mall, art galleries, restaurants, shops
Go: Easiest by cab. Possible by bus (with connection).
Phoenix Zoo/Botanical Gardens
Possible via PHX Sky Train to rail (stop Priest/Washington) to bus or about a mile walk from rail. Easiest via cab.
Biltmore Shopping Center
Outdoor shopping mall, many shops and restaurants. Possible via bus (with connection), easiest by cab.
Is the Phoenix area safe?
In a word, yes. If you are going during daylight hours and are headed to any of the tourist locations you’ll be fine. Areas such as South Phoenix “may” be risky.
If you are going at night, the same areas that are safe during the day should be okay at night.
Can I get from PHX to Tucson? How long will it take and how expensive will it be?
With no traffic, driving from PHX to Tucson is roughly 2 hours. Although you will be traveling on a heavily used section of I-10, traffic usually moves. That said, if there is an accident, chaos and scrambling for any alternate (of which there are few) will happen. Rush hour will also impact this drive. The two cities seem to be growing closer and closer together. There is a rest stop about 15 miles past the Phoenix area. Casa Grande and Eloy also make good pit stops along the route.
{anyone have info on public transit}
Can I get from PHX to Sedona/Flagstaff/the Grand Canyon? How long will it take?
With no traffic, driving from PHX to points north is an extremely scenic drive. The I-17 has some nice climbs/downhills and it should be about 1-1/2 hour to Camp Verde (Verde Valley), a great place to stop. From there--
Flagstaff, another hour (about 2-1/2 to 3 hours total).
Sedona, around 30-45 minutes (the AZ-179 has been under construction for years it seems), about 2 to 2-1/2 hours total
Grand Canyon--you have 2 choices, go through Flagstaff or take the I-40 West and through Williams. Nothing against Williams, but I find the Flagstaff route nicer (and more options for stopping). Plan for 4-5 hours from PHX to the South Entrance, or 5-6 hours to the East Entrance (a bit further but worth the effort during busy periods).
{anyone have info on public transit}
Can I get from PHX to Las Vegas, Los Angeles, San Diego? What are my options?
While it certainly is possible to drive between PHX and these areas (many in the PHX area do it daily), once outside the PHX area, drives can be long, through vast stretches of nothingness. Flights from PHX to these areas are usually about 1 hour (-v- 5+ hours driving) and rather reasonable in price. For trips to Vegas, Hoover Dam crossing can add 30+ minutes to the drive.
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AA Guide: PHX / Phoenix Sky Harbor International Airport - MCT, Connection, etc.
Mar 31, 2019, 3:00 pm
#391
Join Date: Jan 2017
Location: PHX
Programs: AA EXP, Hyatt Something-ist, Bombay Sapphire
Posts: 69
Long time reader on FT, thought I would chime in on this.
Read through the meeting notes from 15 November and noticed the following quote "MAG has proposed using the space to feature two concepts: escape Lounges and American Express’ The Centurion Lounge. The concepts proposed will create two unique and different spaces." Also indicated was the overall space of the 2 lounges will increase to 9,500 SF.
This peeked my interested so I sent a direct twitter message to PHX Sky Harbor's Twitter inquiring if the MAG proposal was one or the other or in fact both Escape and Centurion Lounge. They responded back that the MAG proposal was for both Escape and Centurion Lounges and that the City of Phoenix will vote tomorrow to officially approve the Aviation Advisory Board's recommendation on approval of the MAG contract.
Read through the meeting notes from 15 November and noticed the following quote "MAG has proposed using the space to feature two concepts: escape Lounges and American Express’ The Centurion Lounge. The concepts proposed will create two unique and different spaces." Also indicated was the overall space of the 2 lounges will increase to 9,500 SF.
This peeked my interested so I sent a direct twitter message to PHX Sky Harbor's Twitter inquiring if the MAG proposal was one or the other or in fact both Escape and Centurion Lounge. They responded back that the MAG proposal was for both Escape and Centurion Lounges and that the City of Phoenix will vote tomorrow to officially approve the Aviation Advisory Board's recommendation on approval of the MAG contract.
The Club at Phoenix closing on April 19th. Two employees confirmed The Club will become an Escape lounge and move to the new space. The AMEX Centurion Lounge will take over the current Club at PHX space.
FYI- AA PHX-LHR flight premium passengers are being given access to The Club at PHX today.
Apr 11, 2019, 9:31 am
#392
Join Date: Nov 2014
Location: Essex
Programs: BA Gold; Hilton Diamond; IHG Spire Ambassador,
Posts: 93
What's the possibility of making it from an international flight (MEX-PHX) inbound to B28 between 5 and 5:15 on a friday night, through immigration/customs (global entry, no declarations, clear/PC), recheck bag, and back to gate either B13 or B3 before gates close at 6:05PM? Is between 50 minutes and an hour enough to accomplish this?
Can i ask did you end up doing this and if so what was the result?
I ask as im looking at a flight in PHX @ 0741 from LAX where ill then need to collect bags and re-check them for a flight to MEM that departs at 0857. Is this too tight a connection?
Tickets will be seperate hence the need to collect and re-check bags. I do have Pre-Check if that helps/makes a difference?
Thanks for your help.
Apr 11, 2019, 9:55 am
#393
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Phoenix, AZ
Programs: AA Gold AAdvantage Elite, Rapids Reward
Posts: 38,326
Hi Seige,
Can i ask did you end up doing this and if so what was the result?
I ask as im looking at a flight in PHX @ 0741 from LAX where ill then need to collect bags and re-check them for a flight to MEM that departs at 0857. Is this too tight a connection?
Tickets will be seperate hence the need to collect and re-check bags. I do have Pre-Check if that helps/makes a difference?
Thanks for your help.
Can i ask did you end up doing this and if so what was the result?
I ask as im looking at a flight in PHX @ 0741 from LAX where ill then need to collect bags and re-check them for a flight to MEM that departs at 0857. Is this too tight a connection?
Tickets will be seperate hence the need to collect and re-check bags. I do have Pre-Check if that helps/makes a difference?
Thanks for your help.
Apr 11, 2019, 10:11 am
#394
Join Date: Nov 2014
Location: Essex
Programs: BA Gold; Hilton Diamond; IHG Spire Ambassador,
Posts: 93
Thanks for this unfortunately will be separate tickets. LAX-PHX will be the end of a mileage run and the PHX-ME the start of a connection for a work trip....
The AA schedule changes that occurred this weekend killed me as i was originally getting into PHX the night before at 2200
Apr 11, 2019, 10:13 am
#395
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: Phoenix, AZ
Programs: HH Gold, AA Gold
Posts: 10,458
Hi Seige,
Can i ask did you end up doing this and if so what was the result?
I ask as im looking at a flight in PHX @ 0741 from LAX where ill then need to collect bags and re-check them for a flight to MEM that departs at 0857. Is this too tight a connection?
Tickets will be seperate hence the need to collect and re-check bags. I do have Pre-Check if that helps/makes a difference?
Thanks for your help.
Can i ask did you end up doing this and if so what was the result?
I ask as im looking at a flight in PHX @ 0741 from LAX where ill then need to collect bags and re-check them for a flight to MEM that departs at 0857. Is this too tight a connection?
Tickets will be seperate hence the need to collect and re-check bags. I do have Pre-Check if that helps/makes a difference?
Thanks for your help.
Apr 11, 2019, 10:58 am
#396
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: Sun Prairie, WI
Programs: AA Executive Platinum, HH Diamond, National Executive
Posts: 1,786
It is too tight, if you must collect and re-check your luggage. Pre-check definitely helps, but T4 is huge and, if your first flight is late, it would be nearly impossible and you might miss the luggage check-in deadline for your international flight. Mornings tend to be better, but AA luggage delivery can take a while.
Apr 11, 2019, 2:48 pm
#397
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Phoenix/Columbus
Programs: Delta Silver Medallion, United Gold, US Airways silver
Posts: 1,717
AA 194 business access?
The Club at Phoenix closing on April 19th. Two employees confirmed The Club will become an Escape lounge and move to the new space. The AMEX Centurion Lounge will take over the current Club at PHX space.
FYI- AA PHX-LHR flight premium passengers are being given access to The Club at PHX today.
FYI- AA PHX-LHR flight premium passengers are being given access to The Club at PHX today.
Apr 12, 2019, 2:36 pm
#398
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: KHOU/KIAH
Programs: AA EXP | Marriott Bonvoy Titanium| Hyatt Globalist
Posts: 11,248
PHX has a crazy low MCT of 25 mins, which definitely is risky. Would you do it with checked bags?
I am less worried about myself, but I cannot imagine my bags being transferred in 25 mins. Thoughts?
I am less worried about myself, but I cannot imagine my bags being transferred in 25 mins. Thoughts?
Apr 13, 2019, 8:28 pm
#399
Join Date: Jul 2017
Location: California
Programs: AA EXP; Hyatt Globalist; Marriott Bonvoy Titanium Elite
Posts: 1,968
Hi Seige,
Can i ask did you end up doing this and if so what was the result?
I ask as im looking at a flight in PHX @ 0741 from LAX where ill then need to collect bags and re-check them for a flight to MEM that departs at 0857. Is this too tight a connection?
Tickets will be seperate hence the need to collect and re-check bags. I do have Pre-Check if that helps/makes a difference?
Thanks for your help.
Can i ask did you end up doing this and if so what was the result?
I ask as im looking at a flight in PHX @ 0741 from LAX where ill then need to collect bags and re-check them for a flight to MEM that departs at 0857. Is this too tight a connection?
Tickets will be seperate hence the need to collect and re-check bags. I do have Pre-Check if that helps/makes a difference?
Thanks for your help.
All in all, I had more than enough time to get through recheck, get through customs/immigration (this was fast for me, global precheck), and using clear/pre-check to get back airside, and made it to the gate with a few minutes to spare. Had I just rechecked my bag to the new flight instead of the old one I would have had enough time.
The caveat is I didn't have a line for customs/immigration, if you encounter one then it could set you back, so it's a bit of a gamble.
Apr 15, 2019, 3:46 am
#400
Join Date: Nov 2014
Location: Essex
Programs: BA Gold; Hilton Diamond; IHG Spire Ambassador,
Posts: 93
Hey FDX, my actual layover was on a later flight but I was trying my damndest to make it to an earlier connection to save me from being stuck in PHX for 3 hours IIRC. You will have to collection and recheck bags no matter what, but there's a recheck desk right outside of the international bag collection point that will make it easier to get through. My plan went well except for one thing. It took me almost 30 minutes for my bag to get off the plane. Even though I had a priority tag on it, it was one of the last ones, and made me miss that connection (partly due to rechecking to my original flight thinking it was too late, and they couldn't transfer the bag to the new flight and wouldn't let me go ahead of the bag).
All in all, I had more than enough time to get through recheck, get through customs/immigration (this was fast for me, global precheck), and using clear/pre-check to get back airside, and made it to the gate with a few minutes to spare. Had I just rechecked my bag to the new flight instead of the old one I would have had enough time.
The caveat is I didn't have a line for customs/immigration, if you encounter one then it could set you back, so it's a bit of a gamble.
All in all, I had more than enough time to get through recheck, get through customs/immigration (this was fast for me, global precheck), and using clear/pre-check to get back airside, and made it to the gate with a few minutes to spare. Had I just rechecked my bag to the new flight instead of the old one I would have had enough time.
The caveat is I didn't have a line for customs/immigration, if you encounter one then it could set you back, so it's a bit of a gamble.
I will probably now hope to get into PHX late on the Sunday evening now so i can make the morning connection to MEM. For your information i was not coming in on AA/BA international but was a domestic passenger from LAX if that were to make any difference? I guess it would as the baggage check just after customs would not be applicable now?
Thanks again all.
Apr 25, 2019, 4:17 pm
#401
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Phoenix/Columbus
Programs: Delta Silver Medallion, United Gold, US Airways silver
Posts: 1,717
Update: According to the Admirals Club agent, the new AE Centurion club will NOT be available to AA pax to LHR. They will be directed to the "low B" Admirals Club. Not a good option in my opinion. Need to find out of BA pax can use the AE club. If so, it increases the likelihood of me using the BA flight over the AA flight for my travel to Europe. Or getting a AE Platinum card....
Apr 26, 2019, 9:36 am
#402
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Scottsdale, AZ USA | Stockholm, Sweden
Programs: AA EXP
Posts: 28
Update: According to the Admirals Club agent, the new AE Centurion club will NOT be available to AA pax to LHR. They will be directed to the "low B" Admirals Club. Not a good option in my opinion. Need to find out of BA pax can use the AE club. If so, it increases the likelihood of me using the BA flight over the AA flight for my travel to Europe. Or getting a AE Platinum card....
My best guess would be BA works out an agreement with the Escape Lounge being built adjacent to Centurion Lounge. But I am all but certain that unless pax hold a Plat or Centurion AMEX, they will not be getting access to Centurion Lounge.
There is a recently started PHX Lounge discussion over in the BA FT Forum, may be a good resource for this issue moving forward as well.
Either way, very excited to be getting a Centurion Lounge in PHX!
Last edited by Mike Gilbert; Apr 26, 2019 at 10:20 am Reason: Misspelling
Apr 26, 2019, 10:16 am
#403
Join Date: Jun 2018
Posts: 170
The worst case AA connection is going from the end of the high B's to the end of the high A's, which is roughly a 2/3 mile walk. Many variables to account for in how long it takes you to cover that distance:
- Your level of fitness
- Your footwear
- How many of the moving sidewalks are broken
- How many idiots on the functional moving sidewalks don't grasp the concept of "Walk Left, Stand Right" presented on the prominently displayed signs
Apr 26, 2019, 12:01 pm
#404
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Wesley Chapel, FL
Programs: American Airlines
Posts: 30,015
Don't get me started. I was walking on them yesterday at phx and of course there are signs indicating what you state above right above the walkways. There were at least 5 people just standing in the left side....I was walking at a good clip say 5 kts and said as I was approached them "excuse me, coming through....STAND ON THE RIGHT the sign says".
Clueless.
