US Adopting AA inter-line baggage rules
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However, individual airlines do. (e.g. The AA policy as per this thread. Also, Qantas publish such a benefit permitting through check on separate tickets if the interlined carrier is a *O member airline.)
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Btw, What is with the use of a * in abbreviation for OneWorld. It is logical to use "*" as abbreviation for Star ( as in *A ) but makes no sense that I can see for OneWorld
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That should be "Judging by the wording of the policy, it applies if AA is ...". You cannot infer the agreement is definitely AA only and does not apply two other (in this case *O) carriers.
Of course, this policy may indeed be AA only as stated.
However, I have long suspected there is/are clauses in *O agreements between the member airlines in relation to connecting on separate tickets with the availability of check-through being mandatory. Of course I could be wrong. Also it's hard to show either way - any such agreement would be CiC.
Otherwise, my reasoning goes, why do other *O airlines such as QF have published policies of not permitting check-through on separate tickets except the interlined carrier is a *O member airline. I am thinking they would generally permit no such check-through at all if they could avoid it.
Of course, this policy may indeed be AA only as stated.
However, I have long suspected there is/are clauses in *O agreements between the member airlines in relation to connecting on separate tickets with the availability of check-through being mandatory. Of course I could be wrong. Also it's hard to show either way - any such agreement would be CiC.
Otherwise, my reasoning goes, why do other *O airlines such as QF have published policies of not permitting check-through on separate tickets except the interlined carrier is a *O member airline. I am thinking they would generally permit no such check-through at all if they could avoid it.
What we do know is the policy on aa.com only applies if AA is one of the carriers involved in the connection. As the FT member who first brought to light of this policy to FT community, I'm concern that it has been misquoted on FT to imply that it is alliance-wide when there is no field reports supporting that. There are reports of same airline (eg CX-CX) protection on separate tickets, but not much, if any, involving non-AA OW to another non-AA OW on separate tickets.
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I am postulating this is so given the evidence. My reasoning is that there would be something forcing AA, QF and BA to through-check luggage on separate tickets otherwise they would not do so. A reference to some "Endorsement Waiver Agreement" may also be indicative.
I believe it is used in GDS's to represent so. Some comment here: http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/onewo...l#post19461689
I believe it is used in GDS's to represent so. Some comment here: http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/onewo...l#post19461689
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Hard to say what any of them "would" do-- Qantas did it quite widely until about three years ago when they restricted it to oneworld partners. I had had them interline check to a UA separate ticket flight once, before that change.
For me the good news is that somewhere inside the AA apparatus there is a transition desk that can be called by US front-line checkin staff and can give the correct answer. [The bad news is that in adding and removing the onward segment to get the baggage tagged and bp's printed, US somehow managed to trigger a cancel of the QF flight segment. Fortunately that got restored at LAX.]
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Question on baggage policy interline US to QR on same ticket
I have an upcoming US flight from Canada connecting to QR in PHL all on one ticket. The first segment is in economy (single class aircraft) and the rest in business. Having some trouble understanding the DoT rules and the US agents i have talked to are just as confused.
Does my ticket allow me 3 bags 50 pounds each (US baggage policy) or 2 bags 72 pounds each (QR baggage policy)? Any recent experiences or thoughts on this?
Does my ticket allow me 3 bags 50 pounds each (US baggage policy) or 2 bags 72 pounds each (QR baggage policy)? Any recent experiences or thoughts on this?
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I have an upcoming US flight from Canada connecting to QR in PHL all on one ticket. The first segment is in economy (single class aircraft) and the rest in business. Having some trouble understanding the DoT rules and the US agents i have talked to are just as confused.
Does my ticket allow me 3 bags 50 pounds each (US baggage policy) or 2 bags 72 pounds each (QR baggage policy)? Any recent experiences or thoughts on this?
Does my ticket allow me 3 bags 50 pounds each (US baggage policy) or 2 bags 72 pounds each (QR baggage policy)? Any recent experiences or thoughts on this?
If just connecting and the bags are checked through, then QR is the Most Significant Carrier for the journey and so its allowances will apply the whole way
If the bags are being collected in the US and then checked in separately for the QR flight ( e.g. if there is a stopover or a connection time such that through checking is not permitted ) , then US's allowance will apply for Canada-USA and then QR's will apply from USA onwards
( The DOT rules do not apply in this case since the destination is not the USA )
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What will AA do, if there's an applicable fare that has no routing stored, but the follwoing routing indication:
ROUTING MPM: MPM TRVL PERMITTED
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ROUTING MPM: MPM TRVL PERMITTED
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Is what you are looking to do, that which the governing carrier would permit on one of its paid fares?
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Do you have a stopover in the US or are you just connecting?
If just connecting and the bags are checked through, then QR is the Most Significant Carrier for the journey and so its allowances will apply the whole way
If the bags are being collected in the US and then checked in separately for the QR flight ( e.g. if there is a stopover or a connection time such that through checking is not permitted ) , then US's allowance will apply for Canada-USA and then QR's will apply from USA onwards
( The DOT rules do not apply in this case since the destination is not the USA )
If just connecting and the bags are checked through, then QR is the Most Significant Carrier for the journey and so its allowances will apply the whole way
If the bags are being collected in the US and then checked in separately for the QR flight ( e.g. if there is a stopover or a connection time such that through checking is not permitted ) , then US's allowance will apply for Canada-USA and then QR's will apply from USA onwards
( The DOT rules do not apply in this case since the destination is not the USA )