America West and US Airways Announce Changes to Expanded Frequent Flyer Programs
Sep 26, 2005, 11:17 pm
#46
Join Date: Apr 2005
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Originally Posted by ByrdluvsAWACO
While I hope you're right, I have to say don't hold your breath. This is HP's decision and once they're in cheap mode there's no going back.
[...]We have introduced a new award chart, a new FlightFund Elite level and several new member benefits.[...]
I haven't seen one, so they must be to come
Sep 26, 2005, 11:34 pm
#47
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Southern California
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Originally Posted by frankytalia
I know, but according to their document:
[...]We have introduced a new award chart, a new FlightFund Elite level and several new member benefits.[...]
I haven't seen one, so they must be to come
[...]We have introduced a new award chart, a new FlightFund Elite level and several new member benefits.[...]
I haven't seen one, so they must be to come
Trust me I can appreciate your pain.. as a current HP Gold with 88 segments.. and will not have 90 until AFTER OCT 5, I have no idea what limbo land I will fall in... Hopefully if not Platinum.. it will be Chairman's until Feb of next year. I think I will end up with like 102.. so not quick Chairman's
Bad HP/USWell, we are all gonna lose a little... it is the power of HP's management.
Sep 27, 2005, 1:20 am
#49
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: SEA
Programs: US CP, *Gold, AA Peon
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Originally Posted by Jumpgate
Also, does this mean the 20K domestic award for preferred members is going away? Also, is the online booking bonus going to be only 500 miles from now on?
Online Booking Bonus 500 Miles Ongoing
Beginning October 1, 2005, you’ll earn 500 bonus when purchasing tickets at usairways.com. Preferred members are enjoying exclusive benefits such as unlimited E-Upgrades, Preferred boarding and much more. Plus, you’ll save between $5 and $30* on every ticket!
Also... looks like they took away the 100 mile flight check in offer.
-GH
Sep 27, 2005, 3:37 am
#50
Join Date: Feb 2000
Location: USA; UA-1K; Hyatt Diamond, SPG Platinum
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I fail to understand the true benefit of the Silver level now.
Let's start with Upgrades. How many Silvers believe they have a shot at upgrading now? Come on, raise your hands. Think of those eight-seat 757's. Advance upgrades seem 100% out of the question given the low level of inventory allocated to that bucket. And at the gate? Ugh.
Priority boarding? OK - as a silver, one gets zone 2. But, they've eliminated preboarding for First Class and elites; and the whole "now boarding zones 1 and 2" cattle call doesn't even make a CP feel elite.
At least there are still elite check-in lanes at the airport.
Hopefully I'll eke out one more year of Chairman's to try out "the new" US Airways.
Let's start with Upgrades. How many Silvers believe they have a shot at upgrading now? Come on, raise your hands. Think of those eight-seat 757's. Advance upgrades seem 100% out of the question given the low level of inventory allocated to that bucket. And at the gate? Ugh.
Priority boarding? OK - as a silver, one gets zone 2. But, they've eliminated preboarding for First Class and elites; and the whole "now boarding zones 1 and 2" cattle call doesn't even make a CP feel elite.
At least there are still elite check-in lanes at the airport.
Hopefully I'll eke out one more year of Chairman's to try out "the new" US Airways.
Sep 27, 2005, 6:07 am
#52
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Originally Posted by shinbal
I fail to understand the true benefit of the Silver level now.
Let's start with Upgrades. How many Silvers believe they have a shot at upgrading now? Come on, raise your hands. Think of those eight-seat 757's. Advance upgrades seem 100% out of the question given the low level of inventory allocated to that bucket. And at the gate? Ugh.
Priority boarding? OK - as a silver, one gets zone 2. But, they've eliminated preboarding for First Class and elites; and the whole "now boarding zones 1 and 2" cattle call doesn't even make a CP feel elite.
At least there are still elite check-in lanes at the airport.
Hopefully I'll eke out one more year of Chairman's to try out "the new" US Airways.
Let's start with Upgrades. How many Silvers believe they have a shot at upgrading now? Come on, raise your hands. Think of those eight-seat 757's. Advance upgrades seem 100% out of the question given the low level of inventory allocated to that bucket. And at the gate? Ugh.
Priority boarding? OK - as a silver, one gets zone 2. But, they've eliminated preboarding for First Class and elites; and the whole "now boarding zones 1 and 2" cattle call doesn't even make a CP feel elite.
At least there are still elite check-in lanes at the airport.
Hopefully I'll eke out one more year of Chairman's to try out "the new" US Airways.
1.) Zone 1 and 2 - even if there are a lot of people still ensures an overhead bin. Not to mention that a good GAs when there are a lot of people to break up Zoens 1 and 2.
2.) Preferred check-in and security are huge benefits.
3.) 25% bonus is still better than nothing.
4.) Upgrades = as a silver on the old US I am 12 for 15 this year on upgrades. Yes, the new HP elites will add some competition but a lot of east coast routes, esp. ex-northeast southbound routes will see few west-coast HP flyers on them.
5.) Preferred Phone Line.
6.) Overall recognition.
Sep 27, 2005, 6:48 am
#53
Join Date: Feb 2005
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Originally Posted by LAX1K to AmWest
Well, we are all gonna lose a little... it is the power of HP's management.
You're right, the power is there - to either keep their best flyers happy or screw things up so mightily that they implode in the end...
Sep 27, 2005, 7:02 am
#54
Join Date: Feb 2000
Location: USA; UA-1K; Hyatt Diamond, SPG Platinum
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Originally Posted by davidl
Where did you find that piece of information?
I don't think that it's new information. With the zone boarding process, most GA's now don't give PRE-boarding to First Class and preferreds before general boarding of other areas.
The last 30 or so segments I've been on call preboarding for wheelchairs and UM's. Then, they call (in most cases) zones 1 and 2 together, eliminating the separate FC boarding; and eliminating the boarding of elite-levels only.
Do others hear different things?
Sep 27, 2005, 8:24 am
#55
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Maryland
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Originally Posted by shinbal
I don't think that it's new information. With the zone boarding process, most GA's now don't give PRE-boarding to First Class and preferreds before general boarding of other areas.
The last 30 or so segments I've been on call preboarding for wheelchairs and UM's. Then, they call (in most cases) zones 1 and 2 together, eliminating the separate FC boarding; and eliminating the boarding of elite-levels only.
Do others hear different things?
The last 30 or so segments I've been on call preboarding for wheelchairs and UM's. Then, they call (in most cases) zones 1 and 2 together, eliminating the separate FC boarding; and eliminating the boarding of elite-levels only.
Do others hear different things?
But then, I thought that way before I made SP or GP.
Sep 27, 2005, 8:25 am
#56
Join Date: Jul 2000
Location: The First State, USA - Bonvoy Gold, Honors Gold, Hyatt Discoverist, IHG Gold - FWIW
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Originally Posted by shinbal
I don't think that it's new information. With the zone boarding process, most GA's now don't give PRE-boarding to First Class and preferreds before general boarding of other areas.
The last 30 or so segments I've been on call preboarding for wheelchairs and UM's. Then, they call (in most cases) zones 1 and 2 together, eliminating the separate FC boarding; and eliminating the boarding of elite-levels only.
Do others hear different things?
The last 30 or so segments I've been on call preboarding for wheelchairs and UM's. Then, they call (in most cases) zones 1 and 2 together, eliminating the separate FC boarding; and eliminating the boarding of elite-levels only.
Do others hear different things?
Sep 27, 2005, 9:23 am
#57
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Philadelphia, PA, USA
Programs: Now a lowly US PP
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I just read through this whole thread, and I'm not clear on if we're still going to roll over additional miles. I will have 20-30K additional miles after qualifying for CP. Will those roll over? Will I now qualify for CP with 120K miles?
Sigh....overall, I don't get the warm fuzzies.
Sigh....overall, I don't get the warm fuzzies.
Sep 27, 2005, 9:28 am
#58
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Location: Mesa, AZ
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Originally Posted by Gretchyn
I just read through this whole thread, and I'm not clear on if we're still going to roll over additional miles. I will have 20-30K additional miles after qualifying for CP. Will those roll over? Will I now qualify for CP with 120K miles?
Sigh....overall, I don't get the warm fuzzies.
Sigh....overall, I don't get the warm fuzzies.
Lance
Sep 27, 2005, 9:53 am
#59
Join Date: Aug 2002
Programs: US CP, HP Platinum,UA nobody
Posts: 275
Originally Posted by ByrdluvsAWACO
LOL! Once again I was proven right, and it looks as thought some people need to start munching on crow. 
"This would also seem to indicate that the Silver/Gold level elite bonuses on the US side will be reduced to 25/50%. I can't see HP giving 100% bonues to Gold, Plat, and CP. Unless HP plans on bringing back the 125% bonus for top tier elites, there are going to be some pissed off Silvers and Golds."
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/showp...8&postcount=21
Any of you care to bet against me on this thread.
Enjoy the promos while you can.
"This would also seem to indicate that the Silver/Gold level elite bonuses on the US side will be reduced to 25/50%. I can't see HP giving 100% bonues to Gold, Plat, and CP. Unless HP plans on bringing back the 125% bonus for top tier elites, there are going to be some pissed off Silvers and Golds."
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/showp...8&postcount=21
Any of you care to bet against me on this thread.
Enjoy the promos while you can.
Sep 27, 2005, 9:57 am
#60
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Los Angeles, CA
Programs: UA 1K 1MMer & LT UC (when flying UA); Hyatt Credit Cardist; HHonors Diamond; Marriott Gold via UA 1K
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I'm far less upset about the addition of the Platinum level than I am about GPs' status bonus dropping from 100% to 50%. That's huge! And it bites big time! I can't even say that people who come close to making GP stand to gain by getting bumped up to Platinum status ahead of Golds, since their mileage bonus will still be falling 25%. Their upgrade chances will only increase marginally, since they'll still be behind the CP's.
I'm going to stick around for one more year to see what additional changes (good or bad) the next year brings. But if the mileage program continues the way it has been announced, I will seriously consider switching my loyalty to UA.
I'm going to stick around for one more year to see what additional changes (good or bad) the next year brings. But if the mileage program continues the way it has been announced, I will seriously consider switching my loyalty to UA.