QUAUP fare, but sitting in econ for first leg; what happens on flight day?
#1
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QUAUP fare, but sitting in econ for first leg; what happens on flight day?
I'm traveling BDL-ORD-SEA in a couple weeks, and I bought a QUAUP on the outbound, W on the return. When I made the purchase, there was A inventory available on ORD-SEA, so I am sitting in first on that flight. My Itins looks like this:
Fare basis code:
QUA7UPN
Booking class: A
First
1,720 Award miles
However, the BDL-ORD leg was F2 P2 A0, so I am sitting in coach on that flight.
From My Itins:
Fare basis code:
QUA7UPN
Booking class: Y
Economy
783 Award miles
On the actual flight day, if there are still F seats available on BDL-ORD, do I get one? What priority do I have? Before upgraders? Do I need to make any request for this to happen, or will I just get the seat if there is room?
Also, if I happen to take a bump on that day (most flights are pretty full), will I get treated as having an F ticket or no?
Thanks!
PS: Just for some other info, I could have bought a MUAUP fare that booked into P, giving me a seat in first on BDL-ORD. I chose not to due to price. Would this have changed my bump possibilities at all?
Fare basis code:
QUA7UPN
Booking class: A
First
1,720 Award miles
However, the BDL-ORD leg was F2 P2 A0, so I am sitting in coach on that flight.
From My Itins:
Fare basis code:
QUA7UPN
Booking class: Y
Economy
783 Award miles
On the actual flight day, if there are still F seats available on BDL-ORD, do I get one? What priority do I have? Before upgraders? Do I need to make any request for this to happen, or will I just get the seat if there is room?
Also, if I happen to take a bump on that day (most flights are pretty full), will I get treated as having an F ticket or no?
Thanks!
PS: Just for some other info, I could have bought a MUAUP fare that booked into P, giving me a seat in first on BDL-ORD. I chose not to due to price. Would this have changed my bump possibilities at all?
#2
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I had a similar situation recently. Same fare basis as you, sat in first for the first leg, but A fare never did clear on the second. For me, even as a 1K, I ended up in coach for the latter flight - not even sure if I was put on the wait list for F in this circumstance. It wasn't a long flight, so I didn't make a big deal.
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Oh, forgot to mention that I did get the 50% EQM bonus on both legs however.
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I'd just call to make sure you're on the waitlist, perhaps it might be a manual thing they need to initiate on your behalf.
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Just for the record, does anyone know *what* waitlist I'll be on, and with what priority? Do I get some advantage above ALL upgraders since I have a first class fare, or is it just the normal DM list where it goes status, then fare (which I fear will be a Q fare for me), then time added to DM?
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OK, thanks; that's probably a good idea.
Just for the record, does anyone know *what* waitlist I'll be on, and with what priority? Do I get some advantage above ALL upgraders since I have a first class fare, or is it just the normal DM list where it goes status, then fare (which I fear will be a Q fare for me), then time added to DM?
Just for the record, does anyone know *what* waitlist I'll be on, and with what priority? Do I get some advantage above ALL upgraders since I have a first class fare, or is it just the normal DM list where it goes status, then fare (which I fear will be a Q fare for me), then time added to DM?
#7
Join Date: Feb 2006
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You typically can't waitlist for A space on QUP fares, but you can ask to be put on the DM. Since you're not full fare F, you won't get FFCC, but I think they give you BP2? You're above standby F pax since you're already in Y and you're ahead of upgraders. Only full F pax should be able to trump you.
I have a similar situation--one leg of a QUP booked into A, another into Y. The Y leg doesn't show as wait listed on the itineraries page, however when I go to the upgrade page I'm told in red letters "A complimentary upgrade has been requested on your behalf." I assume that no action is required on my part to get on the DM.
To further confuse things, I am still given the option of upgrading the Y segment via e-500s or miles. This would seem less than pointless.
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For the leg that's booked in Y, I'd check to see what the NF bucket looks like. If there's room in there, you might have a shot at the complimentary upgrade. You'll know shortly before take-off.
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I have a similar situation--one leg of a QUP booked into A, another into Y. The Y leg doesn't show as wait listed on the itineraries page, however when I go to the upgrade page I'm told in red letters "A complimentary upgrade has been requested on your behalf." I assume that no action is required on my part to get on the DM.
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It might have something to do with allowing to keep GS and other elite FF happy.
I've seen on other flights lots of open F, A, P, Y, and B space open but all the N* buckets are 0. The upgrade clearing windows hit, I get placed on the waitlist. Day of the flight, about 50% of the time I've gotten a seat in the F cabin.
I've also booked QUP fares where one of the legs was on an RJ w/o F. Then thanks to the magic of schedule changes, one of my legs gets changed to a different airport for the connection and the UX flight changes to mainline and I'm confirmed in the F cabin on the A fare.
Anyway, Good luck! I hope your u/g comes through!
I've seen on other flights lots of open F, A, P, Y, and B space open but all the N* buckets are 0. The upgrade clearing windows hit, I get placed on the waitlist. Day of the flight, about 50% of the time I've gotten a seat in the F cabin.
I've also booked QUP fares where one of the legs was on an RJ w/o F. Then thanks to the magic of schedule changes, one of my legs gets changed to a different airport for the connection and the UX flight changes to mainline and I'm confirmed in the F cabin on the A fare.
Anyway, Good luck! I hope your u/g comes through!
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This is much more common, IME.