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Old Apr 19, 08, 1:15 am   #1
 
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Seat map full - flight 'all the 9s'

I'm a practical sort of a guy. I can understand that if the flight is Y0 then the seatmap may still show unassigned seats. But when the flight is:

[KVS Availability Tool 3.1.0/Platinum - Apollo: ITN/US-ARL]
Code:
IAD  Washington Dulles Int'l DC US [KIAD]
MCO  Orlando Int'l FL US [KORL]
SAT  03 May 2008

Carrier   Flight From Depart    To   Arrive    A/C  St   Availability
--------- ------ ---- --------- ---- --------- ---- ---- ----------------------------------------- 

UA/#U     1569   IAD  21:35     MCO  23:45     32S  0    Y9 B9 M9 E9 U9 H9 Q9 V9 W9 S9 T9 K9 L9 G0
With a seat map of:

[KVS Availability Tool 3.1.0/Platinum - Amadeus Seat Map: 03 May 2008/UA 1569/IAD-MCO/32S/Y]
Code:
       A   B   C    |   D   E   F       
 1     -   -   -        -   -   -       
 2     -   -   -        -   -   -       
 3     -   -   -        -   -   -       
 4     -   -   -        -   -   -       
 5     -   -   -        -   -   -       
 6     -   -   -        -   -   -       
 7     -   -   -        -   -   -       
 8     -   -   -        -   -   -       
 9     -   -   -        -   -   -       
10 W   -   -   -        -   -   -      E
11 W   -   -   -        -   -   -      E
12 W   -   -   -        -   -   -       
13 W   -   -   -        -   -   -       
14 W   -   -   -        -   -   -       
15 W   -   -   -        -   -   -       
16 W   -   -   -        -   -   -       
17 W   -   -   -        -   -   -       
18     -   -   -        -   -   -       
19     -   -   -        -   -   -       
20     -   +   -        -   -   -       
21     -   -   -        -   -   -       
22     -   -   -        -   -   -       
23     -   -   -        -   -   -       
24     -   -   -        -   -   -       
25     -   -   -        -   -   -       
26     -   -   -        -   -   -       

[+] Available   [-] Unavailable   [W] Wing   [E] Exit Row
Where have all the seat assignments gone?! It makes no sense unless they are all blocked!
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Old Apr 19, 08, 1:26 am   #2
 
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Economy Plus is wide open. Only UA elites and people who've purchased E+ Access can see (most of) the unassigned seats.
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Old Apr 19, 08, 1:43 am   #3
 
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Looks like a fairly eilte light flight

http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~jswong/screenshot.jpeg

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Old Apr 19, 08, 1:54 am   #4
 
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Ah so not even KVS will show E+....
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Old Apr 19, 08, 2:18 am   #5
 
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This is TED to MCO, so heavy leisure and few elites. E+ is often quite open on TED's MCO route
There is also no F, only economy seats.

I checked the flight and there is only 11 people in the E+ (which is Rows 1-11, and that's 66 seats total). (I did not realize there was a screenshot poasted - Thanks jswong!)


You can get 3P nomination from somebody on the Coupon Connection rather cheap these days.

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Old Apr 19, 08, 2:27 am   #6
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You can get 3P nomination from somebody on the Coupon Connection rather cheap these days.
Good idea. Probably not much more than buying E+ for the flight at the airport.
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Old Apr 19, 08, 3:21 am   #7
 
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Thank-you very much! On my way there now!
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Old Apr 19, 08, 8:39 am   #8
 
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Looks like a fairly eilte light flight

http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~jswong/screenshot.jpeg

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I've seen a number of seatmaps looking like this recently. I always wonder, is E- really that jammed? I know they don't do seat-blocking, but could some middles appear full when they are actually empty?
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Old Apr 19, 08, 10:11 am   #9
 
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Regrettably not all that unusual...

Check almost any flight logging in to the bomb as guest and you'll see very few seats available, and none you'd want to reserve...
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Old Apr 19, 08, 12:44 pm   #10
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besides E+ blocking, some seats in E- maybe blocked for gate assignment. As has been said before, the public seat maps are not a reliable view of the situation.
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