Ad Campaign: Mcgarrybowen & United Really Think You Should Consider Flying Out of EWR
Jun 23, 2017, 11:31 pm
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UA obviously doesn't care about the potential of 7.5 million residents who live on Long Island or the one million who live in Westchester county NY. Newark is not convenient or easy to get to for any of them. Two hour drive at best or trains equal time or more connecting through NYC (each way).
Jun 24, 2017, 7:22 am
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UA obviously doesn't care about the potential of 7.5 million residents who live on Long Island or the one million who live in Westchester county NY. Newark is not convenient or easy to get to for any of them. Two hour drive at best or trains equal time or more connecting through NYC (each way).
UA obviously doesn't care about the potential of 7.5 million residents who live on Long Island or the one million who live in Westchester county NY. Newark is not convenient or easy to get to for any of them. Two hour drive at best or trains equal time or more connecting through NYC (each way).
Jun 24, 2017, 1:02 pm
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Something the size of United?, yes it can. They should have never left JFK (to LAX and SFO) and added at least one DENVER flight and one CHICAGO flight from JFK (which they tried years ago and the flights were full). Doesn't matter that they don't feed (connect) outside of JFK; they would have still gotten people to fly them to NEW YORK, not New Jersey............while AA, DL and Jet Blue steamroll right past them with thousands of New Yorker's who do want to use JFK. Not everyone lives in or can attain the wealth it takes to live in Manhattan. 100's of displaced employees as well.
Something the size of United?, yes it can. They should have never left JFK (to LAX and SFO) and added at least one DENVER flight and one CHICAGO flight from JFK (which they tried years ago and the flights were full). Doesn't matter that they don't feed (connect) outside of JFK; they would have still gotten people to fly them to NEW YORK, not New Jersey............while AA, DL and Jet Blue steamroll right past them with thousands of New Yorker's who do want to use JFK. Not everyone lives in or can attain the wealth it takes to live in Manhattan. 100's of displaced employees as well.
Jun 24, 2017, 1:43 pm
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Something the size of United?, yes it can. They should have never left JFK (to LAX and SFO) and added at least one DENVER flight and one CHICAGO flight from JFK (which they tried years ago and the flights were full). Doesn't matter that they don't feed (connect) outside of JFK; they would have still gotten people to fly them to NEW YORK, not New Jersey............while AA, DL and Jet Blue steamroll right past them with thousands of New Yorker's who do want to use JFK. Not everyone lives in or can attain the wealth it takes to live in Manhattan. 100's of displaced employees as well.
Something the size of United?, yes it can. They should have never left JFK (to LAX and SFO) and added at least one DENVER flight and one CHICAGO flight from JFK (which they tried years ago and the flights were full). Doesn't matter that they don't feed (connect) outside of JFK; they would have still gotten people to fly them to NEW YORK, not New Jersey............while AA, DL and Jet Blue steamroll right past them with thousands of New Yorker's who do want to use JFK. Not everyone lives in or can attain the wealth it takes to live in Manhattan. 100's of displaced employees as well.
Jun 24, 2017, 2:42 pm
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From Manhattan:
LGA: The terminal is a mess and cramped, and the situation there right now is a mess. Plus there is always traffic even without the construction, but it is still pretty close for most of the island.
EWR: Surprisingly convenient for most of the island because traffic is (usually) only really, really bad twice per day during rush hour. Terminal C is nice, but A and B are a dump.
JFK: The name gives people the illusion that it is so close, but the Van Wyck is honestly a parking lot almost 24/7. I flew into JFK after midnight a few weeks ago and I still sat in traffic for an hour due to maintenance. Terminals 8 and 5 are really nice, T4 is meh, and the others are not in good shape.
LGA: The terminal is a mess and cramped, and the situation there right now is a mess. Plus there is always traffic even without the construction, but it is still pretty close for most of the island.
EWR: Surprisingly convenient for most of the island because traffic is (usually) only really, really bad twice per day during rush hour. Terminal C is nice, but A and B are a dump.
JFK: The name gives people the illusion that it is so close, but the Van Wyck is honestly a parking lot almost 24/7. I flew into JFK after midnight a few weeks ago and I still sat in traffic for an hour due to maintenance. Terminals 8 and 5 are really nice, T4 is meh, and the others are not in good shape.
Last edited by DA201; Jun 25, 2017 at 12:47 pm Reason: Accidentally wrote A and C instead of A and B
Jun 24, 2017, 4:16 pm
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When I visit NYC, I stay in Manhattan. I prefer trains to travel airport to Manhattan. My preferences:
1) JFK: Nonstops to/from AUS are available. The LIRR runs frequently, and the subway is also available.
2) EWR: Also has nonstops to/from AUS. The NJ Transit train is available but runs irregularly - there can be a 10 or 35 minute gap between trains. And the EWR AirTrain is much smaller (and more cramped) than the JFK AirTrain.
3) LGA: No nonstops to/from AUS (AUS is just outside the perimeter) so a connection is required. Although LGA is closest to Manhattan, making connections adds at least 90 minutes to the overall travel time, which actually makes travel time for AUS to Manhattan the longest out of the 3 airports.
1) JFK: Nonstops to/from AUS are available. The LIRR runs frequently, and the subway is also available.
2) EWR: Also has nonstops to/from AUS. The NJ Transit train is available but runs irregularly - there can be a 10 or 35 minute gap between trains. And the EWR AirTrain is much smaller (and more cramped) than the JFK AirTrain.
3) LGA: No nonstops to/from AUS (AUS is just outside the perimeter) so a connection is required. Although LGA is closest to Manhattan, making connections adds at least 90 minutes to the overall travel time, which actually makes travel time for AUS to Manhattan the longest out of the 3 airports.
Jun 24, 2017, 7:19 pm
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JFK: The name gives people the illusion that it is so close, but the Van Wyck is honestly a parking lot almost 24/7. I flew into JFK after midnight a few weeks ago and I still sat in traffic for an hour due to maintenance. Terminals 8 and 5 are really nice, T4 is meh, and the others are not in good shape.
Jun 24, 2017, 8:44 pm
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Jun 25, 2017, 12:20 am
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UA obviously doesn't care about the potential of 7.5 million residents who live on Long Island or the one million who live in Westchester county NY. Newark is not convenient or easy to get to for any of them. Two hour drive at best or trains equal time or more connecting through NYC (each way).
UA obviously doesn't care about the potential of 7.5 million residents who live on Long Island or the one million who live in Westchester county NY. Newark is not convenient or easy to get to for any of them. Two hour drive at best or trains equal time or more connecting through NYC (each way).
Assuming OP meant A & B are dumps. If so, my hope is that when they finish the construction (if that ever happens - seems to have been going on for 20 years), B will be much improved.
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Jun 25, 2017, 6:45 am
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Something the size of United?, yes it can. They should have never left JFK (to LAX and SFO) and added at least one DENVER flight and one CHICAGO flight from JFK (which they tried years ago and the flights were full). Doesn't matter that they don't feed (connect) outside of JFK; they would have still gotten people to fly them to NEW YORK, not New Jersey............while AA, DL and Jet Blue steamroll right past them with thousands of New Yorker's who do want to use JFK. Not everyone lives in or can attain the wealth it takes to live in Manhattan. 100's of displaced employees as well.
Something the size of United?, yes it can. They should have never left JFK (to LAX and SFO) and added at least one DENVER flight and one CHICAGO flight from JFK (which they tried years ago and the flights were full). Doesn't matter that they don't feed (connect) outside of JFK; they would have still gotten people to fly them to NEW YORK, not New Jersey............while AA, DL and Jet Blue steamroll right past them with thousands of New Yorker's who do want to use JFK. Not everyone lives in or can attain the wealth it takes to live in Manhattan. 100's of displaced employees as well.
Jun 25, 2017, 11:08 am
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Having just had the unfortunate experience of transiting EWR last Friday (including an hour delay before boarding, followed by a return to gate for W&B issues and then capped with a 40 minute ground stop due to TS around the airport), my total dislike for this dump was re-confirmed....
It was hot, disheveled, overpriced, overcrowded and smelly (especially near the TSA checkpoint, it was very, very nasty). My main beef with the whole place really centers on the attitudes of almost every single employee I have interacted with. There is just a pervading, overall "anything is too much trouble" kind of attitude. Oh and the United clubs are some of the worst in the whole system. Finally, let's not forget the complete CF that is the TSA checkpoint. IMHO the whole place needs to be demolished.....
It was hot, disheveled, overpriced, overcrowded and smelly (especially near the TSA checkpoint, it was very, very nasty). My main beef with the whole place really centers on the attitudes of almost every single employee I have interacted with. There is just a pervading, overall "anything is too much trouble" kind of attitude. Oh and the United clubs are some of the worst in the whole system. Finally, let's not forget the complete CF that is the TSA checkpoint. IMHO the whole place needs to be demolished.....