Did UA make another MP change?
Aug 26, 2014, 3:38 pm
#1
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Did UA make another MP change?
I have noticed that several recent flights with A or F tickets on 2 class aircraft earned significantly less miles than they were earlier this year. The online mileage calculator still shows what they are supposed to earn.
Another sneaky enhancement or an IT glitch?
examples:
DEN-YYC credit 2469; according to calculator 3143; previous flights this year 3143
DEN-IAD credit 3993; according to calculator 5082; previous flights this year 5082
Another sneaky enhancement or an IT glitch?
examples:
DEN-YYC credit 2469; according to calculator 3143; previous flights this year 3143
DEN-IAD credit 3993; according to calculator 5082; previous flights this year 5082
Last edited by Plane-is-home; Aug 26, 2014 at 3:50 pm
Aug 26, 2014, 3:58 pm
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IT glitch, possibly relating to them crediting at the rate of the fare code vs. the class? E.g. a VUP that books into A should credit RDM at 175% (plus elite bonus as applicable), but UA occasionally credits as if it were V.
Aug 26, 2014, 4:02 pm
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Certain premium cabin flight segments may earn different award miles and Premier qualifying credits than those defined for your ticketed fare class in the chart above (your fare class for each flight segment is displayed during booking and when viewing a ticketed itinerary on united.com). In these cases, earning is based on the first letter of the fare basis code, which may correspond to an economy cabin fare class including Y, B, M, H, Q, U, V, W, S, T, L, K, G, or N. You can determine your fare basis code when booking a reservation on united.com by selecting the Fare Rules and Restrictions link on the itinerary review page prior to purchase.
UA has nonetheless been mostly crediting UP fares based on booking class rather than fare basis. As has been discussed in various threads, their rules don't require that they do it that way.
Aug 26, 2014, 4:22 pm
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Aug 26, 2014, 4:51 pm
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Typical UA, offering contradictory T&C on their site.
Aug 26, 2014, 4:51 pm
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There have been reports that for a long time UA has been giving 250% for two-cabin domestic legs connecting to three-cabin GlobalFirst; for example, there have been reports that if you fly on an A fare BOS-SFO-ICN you should expect to earn 250% BOS-SFO and 250% SFO-ICN, not 175% BOS-SFO + 250% SFO-ICN. However, this behavior is not the benefit published by UA.
Aug 26, 2014, 4:58 pm
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United's earning site says that F/A fares earn 250% RDM if in three-cabin GlobalFirst and 175% in all other cases. See http://www.united.com/CMS/en-US/Mark...es/united.aspx
There have been reports that for a long time UA has been giving 250% for two-cabin domestic legs connecting to three-cabin GlobalFirst; for example, there have been reports that if you fly on an A fare BOS-SFO-ICN you should expect to earn 250% BOS-SFO and 250% SFO-ICN, not 175% BOS-SFO + 250% SFO-ICN. However, this behavior is not the benefit published by UA.
There have been reports that for a long time UA has been giving 250% for two-cabin domestic legs connecting to three-cabin GlobalFirst; for example, there have been reports that if you fly on an A fare BOS-SFO-ICN you should expect to earn 250% BOS-SFO and 250% SFO-ICN, not 175% BOS-SFO + 250% SFO-ICN. However, this behavior is not the benefit published by UA.
Aug 26, 2014, 5:22 pm
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United's earning site says that F/A fares earn 250% RDM if in three-cabin GlobalFirst and 175% in all other cases. See http://www.united.com/CMS/en-US/Mark...es/united.aspx
There have been reports that for a long time UA has been giving 250% for two-cabin domestic legs connecting to three-cabin GlobalFirst; for example, there have been reports that if you fly on an A fare BOS-SFO-ICN you should expect to earn 250% BOS-SFO and 250% SFO-ICN, not 175% BOS-SFO + 250% SFO-ICN. However, this behavior is not the benefit published by UA.
There have been reports that for a long time UA has been giving 250% for two-cabin domestic legs connecting to three-cabin GlobalFirst; for example, there have been reports that if you fly on an A fare BOS-SFO-ICN you should expect to earn 250% BOS-SFO and 250% SFO-ICN, not 175% BOS-SFO + 250% SFO-ICN. However, this behavior is not the benefit published by UA.
Aug 26, 2014, 6:13 pm
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Aug 26, 2014, 7:02 pm
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I have noticed that several recent flights with A or F tickets on 2 class aircraft earned significantly less miles than they were earlier this year. The online mileage calculator still shows what they are supposed to earn.
Another sneaky enhancement or an IT glitch?
examples:
DEN-YYC credit 2469; according to calculator 3143; previous flights this year 3143
DEN-IAD credit 3993; according to calculator 5082; previous flights this year 5082
Another sneaky enhancement or an IT glitch?
examples:
DEN-YYC credit 2469; according to calculator 3143; previous flights this year 3143
DEN-IAD credit 3993; according to calculator 5082; previous flights this year 5082
Always, always, always...save a copy of the T&C showing the actual fare class and fare basis code. I've seen a lot of UA itineraries booking into First (F, A) or Business (P, Z) that are actually economy fares with "complimentary upgrades" (except during IRROPS).