Pilot in F (per policy/contract) while paying elites are not
Jul 15, 2014, 7:35 pm
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And officially, Non-Rev passengers get the lowest priority on the first class list, and most certainly not ahead of paying passengers.
Jul 15, 2014, 7:50 pm
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Almost every airline in america i know of gives their employees first class seats over complimentary upgrades when deadheading or official company travel.
And officially, Non-Rev passengers get the lowest priority on the first class list, and most certainly not ahead of paying passengers.
And officially, Non-Rev passengers get the lowest priority on the first class list, and most certainly not ahead of paying passengers.
Jul 15, 2014, 8:19 pm
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Jul 15, 2014, 8:21 pm
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Jul 15, 2014, 8:24 pm
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Jul 15, 2014, 9:01 pm
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And officially, Non-Rev passengers get the lowest priority on the first class list, and most certainly not ahead of paying passengers.
Jul 15, 2014, 9:20 pm
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Almost every airline in america i know of gives their employees first class seats over complimentary upgrades when deadheading or official company travel.
And officially, Non-Rev passengers get the lowest priority on the first class list, and most certainly not ahead of paying passengers.
And officially, Non-Rev passengers get the lowest priority on the first class list, and most certainly not ahead of paying passengers.
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Jul 16, 2014, 1:32 am
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OK, I'm glad to see you explain this. Back when I was a "travel companion," I ocasionally booked in CoAir as a Biz NRSA. Because it was a separate category from the coach NRSA, I somehow thought that the these seats would be assigned right after all the full coach fare passengers, but before any upgrades from coach. Gosh, knowing this now, I'm stunned I actually received those biz seats IAH-GIG-IAH and AMS-EWR.
Jul 16, 2014, 1:48 am
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I've been somewhere below #1 on "the list" and at T-45 min done the TOD if it feels right. It sucks for everyone above me on the list, especially whoever is #1. You very well may not have noticed the list get smaller by one person, heck it may even have stayed the same if someone had just checked in for the flight at the very last minute, but there goes that one seat in F.
Either crew got it because they are entitled to it or someone bought up. Either way, it wasn't your day to get the Jimmy Dean sausage.
Either crew got it because they are entitled to it or someone bought up. Either way, it wasn't your day to get the Jimmy Dean sausage.
Jul 16, 2014, 2:30 am
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Jul 16, 2014, 2:38 am
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I present for your perusal this:
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/23170827-post586.html
Jul 16, 2014, 6:19 am
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In fact, he probably was not only dead-heading, but was designated "must-ride". A must-ride is a pilot that has to be on that particular flight because there is a flight later in the day waiting for him to fly it. In an oversell situation, the must-ride pilot will bump a fare-paying passenger which infuriates them.
If crew scheduling needs him on this flight, they book whatever class is available. If economy is zeroed out because of an oversell, they will book him directly in first. The gate does not upgrade him and probably does not even know he is on the flight. He is just another passenger booked in first.
If crew scheduling needs him on this flight, they book whatever class is available. If economy is zeroed out because of an oversell, they will book him directly in first. The gate does not upgrade him and probably does not even know he is on the flight. He is just another passenger booked in first.
Jul 16, 2014, 6:24 am
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Jul 16, 2014, 9:53 am
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OK, I'm glad to see you explain this. Back when I was a "travel companion," I ocasionally booked in CoAir as a Biz NRSA. Because it was a separate category from the coach NRSA, I somehow thought that the these seats would be assigned right after all the full coach fare passengers, but before any upgrades from coach. Gosh, knowing this now, I'm stunned I actually received those biz seats IAH-GIG-IAH and AMS-EWR.
Jul 17, 2014, 2:00 pm
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Employee traveling on company business: NRPS
Non Rev Positive Space
Employee traveling on their own pleasure/commute/whatever: NRSA
Non Rev Space Available
Both groups are nonrevs. Let's not let "nonrev" become any more of a pejorative than it already is on FT (not the least of which the UA board). I, for one, try my best to respect the employees' flying privileges when I encounter them, just as much as I expect the employees to show respect to paying customers when going through the procedures both on the ground and in the air.
Non Rev Positive Space
Employee traveling on their own pleasure/commute/whatever: NRSA
Non Rev Space Available
Both groups are nonrevs. Let's not let "nonrev" become any more of a pejorative than it already is on FT (not the least of which the UA board). I, for one, try my best to respect the employees' flying privileges when I encounter them, just as much as I expect the employees to show respect to paying customers when going through the procedures both on the ground and in the air.
I am always surprised that there are negative attitudes to non-revenue fliers.
If airlines couldn't move staff around for work related reasons, they would have to either employ far many workers or pay them much more so they could, in-turn, purchase tickets from their employers to get to their next work location. What inefficiency! How much would the airlines have to raise ticket prices to pay for such foolishness?
If airlines didn't provide staff with free travel benefits they surely would have to provide them with higher salaries and wages. Many, if not most, airline employees take airline jobs not only because they love aviation but because they know that they and close family members will be able to do some free flying. They certainly don't take the jobs for the high wages which the industry doesn't pay, especially those starting in their careers. Without the benefits, the airlines would have to pay more to get the same sized staff. They would, no doubt, have to raise ticket prices to pay for those higher salaries.
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