Consolidated Global Services Thread - Qualifications, Benefits and Q & A [2014]
Aug 26, 2014, 12:58 pm
#511
Join Date: May 2012
Location: LAX
Programs: UA GS/1MM, Ritz Carlton Plat
Posts: 200
Question 1: Will a GS be allowed lounge (united club or *gold if available) access when flying p.s. (example: LAX-EWR-LAX or HNL-EWR-HNL)?
Question 2: If the above answer is "yes", will said GS be allowed a +1?
Thanks guys! I know these are not international flights, but sometimes rules can be a little different for the long domestic routes. GS flyer is not a united club member and does not have any united credit card.
Question 2: If the above answer is "yes", will said GS be allowed a +1?
Thanks guys! I know these are not international flights, but sometimes rules can be a little different for the long domestic routes. GS flyer is not a united club member and does not have any united credit card.
Aug 26, 2014, 1:33 pm
#512
Join Date: Apr 2012
Posts: 537
Well, yes, you will lower your chances of getting GS. I would be skeptical Copa counts so I actually wouldn't be very confident as it is...so I might opt for the LH. Especially with your relatively few flights and booking in premium cabins as it is, I don't know if you are going to get a huge advantage out of GS, so I might opt for the LH first flight with lower flight time.
Aug 27, 2014, 7:16 am
#513
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: TPA
Programs: UA Global Services 3MM, Hyatt Lifetime Globalist
Posts: 2,927
Aug 27, 2014, 12:52 pm
#514
Join Date: May 2012
Location: LAX
Programs: UA GS/1MM, Ritz Carlton Plat
Posts: 200
I didn't notice that ... you are right. EWR and HNL are not p.s. flights, you would not have GFL or UC access on those flights even in business or first.
Aug 27, 2014, 11:20 pm
#515
Join Date: Dec 2013
Location: israel
Programs: United GS, IHG platinum,ElAl Top Platinum
Posts: 30
questions from a tyro!!
my PQM is 180,000.almost all in B/F
My PQD is $34,000
Is my BIS my miles minus B/F bonus?
If so would it be 120,000?
what then would be my cents per mile?
my PQM is 180,000.almost all in B/F
My PQD is $34,000
Is my BIS my miles minus B/F bonus?
If so would it be 120,000?
what then would be my cents per mile?
Aug 28, 2014, 3:02 am
#516
Join Date: Mar 2014
Programs: UA GS
Posts: 32
Q: NYC-based (i.e., EWR, unfortunately). 8 trips NYC-EU, all on UA metal, all C. Thus, PQD for those trips= approx $54k (fare only, excluding taxes/fees)/BIS miles= 60,800. Thus, CPM for those trips is about $.88, correct?
However, I've also got some personal travel this year (5 domestic trips, all in discount econ). So, will this travel drag down my overall CPM and put a damper on GS chances?
However, I've also got some personal travel this year (5 domestic trips, all in discount econ). So, will this travel drag down my overall CPM and put a damper on GS chances?
Aug 28, 2014, 3:33 am
#517
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Houston
Programs: UA GS 2.6MM & Lifetime UC, Qantas Platinum, Hilton Lifetime Diamond, Bonvoy Platinum, HawaiianMiles
Posts: 8,695
Q: NYC-based (i.e., EWR, unfortunately). 8 trips NYC-EU, all on UA metal, all C. Thus, PQD for those trips= approx $54k (fare only, excluding taxes/fees)/BIS miles= 60,800. Thus, CPM for those trips is about $.88, correct?
However, I've also got some personal travel this year (5 domestic trips, all in discount econ). So, will this travel drag down my overall CPM and put a damper on GS chances?
However, I've also got some personal travel this year (5 domestic trips, all in discount econ). So, will this travel drag down my overall CPM and put a damper on GS chances?
Aug 31, 2014, 10:10 pm
#518
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Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: BOS, PVG
Programs: United 1K and 1MM, Marriott Ambassador
Posts: 10,000
Can GS convert Z or P class to PN?
Z3 P0 PN0 so GS RPU can't clear now.
Z3 P0 PN0 so GS RPU can't clear now.
Aug 31, 2014, 10:12 pm
#519
Join Date: Nov 2013
Location: NYC / TYO / Up in the Air
Programs: UA GS 1.7MM, AA 2.1MM, EK, BA, SQ, CX, Marriot LT, Accor P
Posts: 6,315
Aug 31, 2014, 10:40 pm
#520
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: LA
Posts: 1,281
Q: NYC-based (i.e., EWR, unfortunately). 8 trips NYC-EU, all on UA metal, all C. Thus, PQD for those trips= approx $54k (fare only, excluding taxes/fees)/BIS miles= 60,800. Thus, CPM for those trips is about $.88, correct?
However, I've also got some personal travel this year (5 domestic trips, all in discount econ). So, will this travel drag down my overall CPM and put a damper on GS chances?
However, I've also got some personal travel this year (5 domestic trips, all in discount econ). So, will this travel drag down my overall CPM and put a damper on GS chances?
Yes your domestic could bring you down and hurt you. 5 trips domestically probably not too much. But you start hitting 10-15+ trips might be an issue. I fly international about once a month in GF or biz and a ton of domestic and since I don't fly first domestic I don't get GS even though I have more spend than many GS folks here because my domestic lowers my CPM when it comes to BIS. YMMV but you probably need at least another 2 trips international to be on the safe side since you only have 60k BIS on the premium fares.
Sep 1, 2014, 2:07 am
#521
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: NYC
Programs: UA GS, SPG Plat, National EC Executive (Replaced Hertz), Hertz PC (Retired)
Posts: 724
Yes your domestic could bring you down and hurt you. 5 trips domestically probably not too much. But you start hitting 10-15+ trips might be an issue. I fly international about once a month in GF or biz and a ton of domestic and since I don't fly first domestic I don't get GS even though I have more spend than many GS folks here because my domestic lowers my CPM when it comes to BIS. YMMV but you probably need at least another 2 trips international to be on the safe side since you only have 60k BIS on the premium fares.
I hate the speculation around this forum; totally useless to most.
Sep 1, 2014, 4:29 am
#522
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Lahaina, HI & Los Angeles, CA
Programs: UA GS
Posts: 2,403
Sep 1, 2014, 6:02 am
#523
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: Bucks County
Programs: UAL GS & Million Miler; Delta Lifetime Gold; Hilton Diamond; Marriott Platinum; Legion Etrangere
Posts: 1,609
If they don't do weighted CPM then very few domestic fliers would make GS. Just averaging the CPM of all of your flights together means absolutely nothing - if I fly 500 miles for $100 (20cpm) but I fly 5000 miles for $10,000 ($2.00 CPM) there is no way they are weighted the same in their algorithm.
I hate the speculation around this forum; totally useless to most.
I hate the speculation around this forum; totally useless to most.
Sep 1, 2014, 8:35 am
#524
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: LA
Posts: 1,281
Yet you agree to much speculation on this site yet you just did that in your own post by saying total spend is everything. That is very hypocrite like to bash others yet it is OK to do so yourself
Last edited by dank0014; Sep 1, 2014 at 8:42 am
Sep 1, 2014, 9:21 am
#525
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: SEA
Programs: UA AS DL Hyatt SPG/Bonvoy HHonors
Posts: 2,008
Yes your domestic could bring you down and hurt you. 5 trips domestically probably not too much. But you start hitting 10-15+ trips might be an issue. I fly international about once a month in GF or biz and a ton of domestic and since I don't fly first domestic I don't get GS even though I have more spend than many GS folks here because my domestic lowers my CPM when it comes to BIS. YMMV but you probably need at least another 2 trips international to be on the safe side since you only have 60k BIS on the premium fares.
Or else fly another carrier domestically? It's kind of a perverse incentive not to drag down your cpm... They should really look at the volume of high cpm flying, and ignore the other flying