Go Back   > > >

Old Aug 8, 12, 9:21 am   #1
Original Poster
  
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: The Cinnabar Mines
Programs: UA Kayaker and LVF, OZ Carbonesque
Posts: 85
UACO July consolidated traffic data

Other Flyertalkers are much better at interpreting (and disputing) the traffic data, so I will leave it to the rest of you to make what you will of the data. I saw another article that suggested capacity cuts in all of the major airlines compared to last year, but still it appeared that UACO was lagging behind its competitors for this past July.

http://www.nasdaq.com/article/united...20120808-00792

Last edited by naeglerian; Aug 8, 12 at 9:22 am Reason: English is my first language, just not in the morning.
naeglerian is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Aug 8, 12, 9:25 am   #2
  
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: San Francisco
Programs: UA 1K, Club Carlson Gold, Marriott Gold
Posts: 5,973
Wirelessly posted (Mozilla/5.0 (iPhone; CPU iPhone OS 5_1_1 like Mac OS X) AppleWebKit/534.46 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/5.1 Mobile/9B206 Safari/7534.48.3)

Continental Airlines reported July on-time performance of 64.1 percent, down 10.2 percentage points, and the airline flight-completion factor edged down 0.6 percentage points to 97.9 percent.

What a joke
demkr is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Aug 8, 12, 10:08 am   #3
FlyerTalk Evangelist
  
Join Date: May 2001
Location: LAX; AA EXP, MM; HH Gold
Posts: 31,555
IMO, this is the key quote:

Quote:
For July 2012, consolidated passenger revenue per ASM or PRASM, is estimated to have remained flat compared to last year.
Unit revenue remained flat year over year. While bargain-hunters may applaud this, it's a sign that UA contnues to experience difficulty in pushing revenues higher. Perhaps because those willing to pay are looking to other airlines? AA increased its unit revenue by an industry-leading 4.7% in July.
FWAAA is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Aug 8, 12, 10:40 am   #4
  
Join Date: Jun 2005
Posts: 4,644
Quote:
Originally Posted by demkr View Post
Wirelessly posted (Mozilla/5.0 (iPhone; CPU iPhone OS 5_1_1 like Mac OS X) AppleWebKit/534.46 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/5.1 Mobile/9B206 Safari/7534.48.3)

Continental Airlines reported July on-time performance of 64.1 percent, down 10.2 percentage points, and the airline flight-completion factor edged down 0.6 percentage points to 97.9 percent.

What a joke
So this is saying that 35% of flights were delayed and 2% were cancelled?
FlyWorld is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Aug 8, 12, 10:56 am   #5
  
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Seat 1A
Programs: DL; AA; UA; CO; LHLX; NZ; QR; EK; BA
Posts: 6,502
Quote:
Originally Posted by mitchmu View Post
So this is saying that 35% of flights were delayed and 2% were cancelled?
Yes..for comparison, here are some other carriers' numbers:

US: 82% on time; 99.1% completion
DL: 80% on time; 99.5% completion
AS: 89% on time

And July PRASM increase comparisons:

AA: +4.7%
DL: +4.5%
WN: +2.0%
US: +1.0%
UA: Flat
ClipperDelta is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Aug 8, 12, 12:07 pm   #6
  
Join Date: May 2011
Posts: 5,438
Interesting but not surprised.
edcho is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Aug 8, 12, 12:12 pm   #7
  
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: LA
Posts: 6,676
Quote:
Originally Posted by demkr View Post
Wirelessly posted (Mozilla/5.0 (iPhone; CPU iPhone OS 5_1_1 like Mac OS X) AppleWebKit/534.46 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/5.1 Mobile/9B206 Safari/7534.48.3)

Continental Airlines reported July on-time performance of 64.1 percent, down 10.2 percentage points...
Continental Airlines?

This will not stand for business travelers. Flip a coin to see if you show up on time...
anc-ord772 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Aug 8, 12, 12:46 pm   #8
  
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: San Francisco/Tel Aviv/YYZ
Programs: CO 1K-MM
Posts: 9,792
Quote:
For July 2012, consolidated passenger revenue per ASM or PRASM, is estimated to have remained flat compared to last year.
there's your high-yield exodus.

Quote:
Continental Airlines reported July on-time performance of 64.1 percent, down 10.2 percentage points, and the airline flight-completion factor edged down 0.6 percentage points to 97.9 percent.
And that's just pathetic.
entropy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Aug 8, 12, 1:00 pm   #9
FlyerTalk Evangelist
  
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Bay Area, CA
Programs: UA Plat 2MM; AS MVP Gold 75K
Posts: 33,646
Quote:
Originally Posted by ClipperDelta View Post

And July PRASM increase comparisons:

AA: +4.7%
DL: +4.5%
WN: +2.0%
US: +1.0%
UA: Flat

Holy moly. I'm starting to get nervous about my mileage balance. If they can't turn this around, this is gonna get ugly.
channa is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Aug 8, 12, 1:01 pm   #10
  
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Houston
Programs: AS MVPGold;TK Gold;NEXUS;Hyatt & Hilton Diamond;Marriott PLT,SPG Gold,UA 1.55MM (fmr UA1K)
Posts: 5,622
Quote:
Originally Posted by edcho View Post
Interesting but not surprised.
At least based on my flights in July, I was surprised the ontime rate was so high!
Renard is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Aug 8, 12, 1:13 pm   #11
  
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Washington, DC
Programs: UA Plat, DL Plat, HH Gold, MR Gold
Posts: 897
Quote:
Originally Posted by demkr View Post
Continental Airlines reported July on-time performance of 64.1 percent, down 10.2 percentage points, and the airline flight-completion factor edged down 0.6 percentage points to 97.9 percent.

What a joke
That is a truly atrocious number! You had a greater than 1 in 3 chance of being delayed in July. Has an on-time percentage for any carrier ever been this low?
coolbeans202 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Aug 8, 12, 1:19 pm   #12
FlyerTalk Evangelist
  
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: SPI
Programs: AA Gold, UA LT Plat, SPG LT Plat
Posts: 18,028
Can we please all wait for a CO apologist to explain to us - in terms we can UNDERSTAND - why this ISN'T bad??

I just don't want my posts to be deleted in advance of an apologist's explanation.


Thank you!!

Dave
bseller is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Aug 8, 12, 1:22 pm   #13
  
Join Date: May 2011
Posts: 5,438
Quote:
Originally Posted by anc-ord772 View Post
Continental Airlines?

This will not stand for business travelers. Flip a coin to see if you show up on time...
Freudian slip?
edcho is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Aug 8, 12, 1:22 pm   #14
  
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Chicago, IL
Programs: UA 1K 2MM, HH D, Hyatt Diamond, SPG Plat 100, Hertz PC
Posts: 835
Quote:
Originally Posted by bseller View Post
Can we please all wait for a CO apologist to explain to us - in terms we can UNDERSTAND - why this ISN'T bad??

I just don't want my posts to be deleted in advance of an apologist's explanation.


Thank you!!

Dave
You beat me to it! i can't wait to see how they can spin this in Jeffy's favor....
jchiguy1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Aug 8, 12, 2:29 pm   #15
  
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: E
Posts: 166
Quote:
Originally Posted by jchiguy1 View Post
You beat me to it! i can't wait to see how they can spin this in Jeffy's favor....
Merger related "growing pains" seems to be their go-to line.

And by growing pains they must mean me booking my next trip on WN. Saved myself 40% or ~$300. Thanks for the discount Jeffy!!!
15cats is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Bookmarks

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 4:16 am.

Contact Us - FlyerTalk - Archive - Top