Swan brings Heathrow runway to a standstill
Nov 11, 2014, 7:09 am
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Swan brings Heathrow runway to a standstill
A swan has caused a queue of aircraft at Heathrow, leaving passengers waiting while staff tried to escort it from the runway.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-29998795
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-29998795
Nov 11, 2014, 11:48 am
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If someone orders someone to shoot the swan, that person gets prosecuted, the company gets prosecuted and the person who pulls the trigger gets prosecuted.
The only way they can shoot the swan without a licence is if there is a genuine safety concern (plane declares PAN/MAYDAY and can't divert for example). Inconvenience is not a defence which enables you to break the law. Nor are financial costs (although they can be a reason for issuance of a licence) And all airport staff working in bird control are taught that in training which gets refreshed regularly as are their managers.
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So if someone shoots the swan, the person who pulls the trigger gets prosecuted.
If someone orders someone to shoot the swan, that person gets prosecuted, the company gets prosecuted and the person who pulls the trigger gets prosecuted.
The only way they can shoot the swan without a licence is if there is a genuine safety concern (plane declares PAN/MAYDAY and can't divert for example). Inconvenience is not a defence which enables you to break the law. Nor are financial costs (although they can be a reason for issuance of a licence) And all airport staff working in bird control are taught that in training which gets refreshed regularly as are their managers.
If someone orders someone to shoot the swan, that person gets prosecuted, the company gets prosecuted and the person who pulls the trigger gets prosecuted.
The only way they can shoot the swan without a licence is if there is a genuine safety concern (plane declares PAN/MAYDAY and can't divert for example). Inconvenience is not a defence which enables you to break the law. Nor are financial costs (although they can be a reason for issuance of a licence) And all airport staff working in bird control are taught that in training which gets refreshed regularly as are their managers.
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All wild birds are protected in the UK. There are some ifs and buts to that, but nothing which would apply to this swan in this situation.
Nothing to do with the Queen (and she only owns the ones on the Thames, not throughout the UK - but this is probably one of hers). A heron would have the same degree of protection.
In the UK, Capt Sully would not have been guilty of a crime - his act neither showed intent nor were reckless. As such, no charge to answer under the Wildlife and Countryside Act 1981 as amended.
Nothing to do with the Queen (and she only owns the ones on the Thames, not throughout the UK - but this is probably one of hers). A heron would have the same degree of protection.
In the UK, Capt Sully would not have been guilty of a crime - his act neither showed intent nor were reckless. As such, no charge to answer under the Wildlife and Countryside Act 1981 as amended.
Nov 12, 2014, 12:17 am
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So if someone shoots the swan, the person who pulls the trigger gets prosecuted.
If someone orders someone to shoot the swan, that person gets prosecuted, the company gets prosecuted and the person who pulls the trigger gets prosecuted.
The only way they can shoot the swan without a licence is if there is a genuine safety concern (plane declares PAN/MAYDAY and can't divert for example). Inconvenience is not a defence which enables you to break the law. Nor are financial costs (although they can be a reason for issuance of a licence) And all airport staff working in bird control are taught that in training which gets refreshed regularly as are their managers.
If someone orders someone to shoot the swan, that person gets prosecuted, the company gets prosecuted and the person who pulls the trigger gets prosecuted.
The only way they can shoot the swan without a licence is if there is a genuine safety concern (plane declares PAN/MAYDAY and can't divert for example). Inconvenience is not a defence which enables you to break the law. Nor are financial costs (although they can be a reason for issuance of a licence) And all airport staff working in bird control are taught that in training which gets refreshed regularly as are their managers.
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[QUOTE=Jenbel;23828343]All wild birds are protected in the UK. There are some ifs and buts to that, but nothing which would apply to this swan in this situation.
Nothing to do with the Queen (and she only owns the ones on the Thames, not throughout the UK - but this is probably one of hers). A heron would have the same degree of protection.
Today, the Crown retains the right to ownership of all unmarked mute swans in open water, but The Queen only exercises her ownership on certain stretches of the Thames and its surrounding tributaries.
from "The offical website of The British Monarchy"
So, technically the State in the form of the Crown which is technically the monarch, owns all Swans as above.
Nothing to do with the Queen (and she only owns the ones on the Thames, not throughout the UK - but this is probably one of hers). A heron would have the same degree of protection.
Today, the Crown retains the right to ownership of all unmarked mute swans in open water, but The Queen only exercises her ownership on certain stretches of the Thames and its surrounding tributaries.
from "The offical website of The British Monarchy"
So, technically the State in the form of the Crown which is technically the monarch, owns all Swans as above.
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Nov 12, 2014, 2:43 pm
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It's not only the UK where people get prosecuted for killing (or allowing it to happen) certain birds
hoot to kill and this as well
hoot to kill and this as well