Nov 29, 2023, 11:37 am
Last edit by: Nayef
Copied from Xyzzy's post:
I think this sums up what to do pretty well:
I think this sums up what to do pretty well:
- Airline checkin in the US for departure to EU
- Right now you can show either EU or US (but airline execs I know and have discussed this with suggest giving the airline your US passport).
- In the future, when ETIAS comes into force, show the EU passport to the airline because the EU will require that data to be sent ahead of the flight.
- re: the above two comments, it currently doesn't matter which you use from a US perspective. If you are a US citizen, departing the US on an EU passport you've not entered the US with is not going to cause any problems.
- Immigration on arrival in the EU
- Show the EU passport because you are a citizen and many/most countries require citizens to show their passports to enter.
- Airline checkin in the EU for departure to the US
- Show your US passport to the airline as the US requires you to enter on your US passport and APIS data sent ahead of the flight needs to contain your US data.
- Immigration departing the EU
- Show the EU passport that you entered the EU with. The fact that you gave a different passport to the airline will not cause any problem.
- At the gate for a flight departing to the US: You may be asked to verify your travel documents at the gate before departure and so only show your US passport in this case.
- Immigration arriving the US
- Show the US passport you showed to the airline.
Dual Citizen Traveling from/to the US, which Passport to show/use, where?
Jun 26, 2015, 9:31 am
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And indeed there are "random" gate-area/jetbridge exit control checks performed daily by CBP. Even as these checks only hit a small minority of daily flights departing the U.S.; and even as these checks commonly don't involve all passengers having their passports electronically scanned by CBP in the gate-area/jetbridge even when done.
And indeed there are "random" gate-area/jetbridge exit control checks performed daily by CBP. Even as these checks only hit a small minority of daily flights departing the U.S.; and even as these checks commonly don't involve all passengers having their passports electronically scanned by CBP in the gate-area/jetbridge even when done.
Jul 1, 2015, 10:10 pm
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Just exit with the EU passport and if they need proof is entry, show the expired US one.
Then when outside the country, just go to any US Embassy or Consulate and then renew it. Getting my second passport only took like two weeks.
Then when outside the country, just go to any US Embassy or Consulate and then renew it. Getting my second passport only took like two weeks.
Dec 23, 2015, 12:16 pm
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Yes and yes, but you're not supposed to do that. And it can complicate matters in the future. The less complicating way to do it is to go across by car from the US to Canada using US ID and proof of US citizenship and then fly out of Canada to a non-US area on the EU passport.
Dec 23, 2015, 12:25 pm
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Yes and yes, but you're not supposed to do that. And it can complicate matters in the future. The less complicating way to do it is to go across by car from the US to Canada using US ID and proof of US citizenship and then fly out of Canada to a non-US area on the EU passport.
Dec 23, 2015, 12:59 pm
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Even if that embassy/consulate route to return isn't done, many do manage to fly to the US on US VWP country passports even as they shouldn't; but then they should still present themselves at the US port of entry as being a US citizen -- even if having flown directly to the US using an ESTA/VWP country passport for the trip.
Dec 23, 2015, 1:20 pm
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I've done this a few times, though not within the past few years. The passport readers at EWR for kiosk check in (without checked bags) used to have trouble reading my US passport, so rather than deal with that hassle of, you know, getting in line and dealing with a human I'd just use my EU passport which was scanned with no problem. Never had an issue upon reentry.
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With regard to the thread's opening question and follow-up hypothetical situation, the answer to Often1's question doesn't really change a thing. Even if anyone here were or were not a hypothetical subject legally responsible to owe $2,500+ in child support money for a minor child -- whether or not a child has been biologically-fathered/mothered or legally adopted by anyone here may not matter -- the answer to the thread-starting OP matters for US dual-citizens denied a timely US passport or not in possession of a US passport when wanting to travel out of the country using a valid non-US passport applicable for transport and admissibility at the foreign destination.
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Feb 3, 2016, 1:41 pm
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Dual US/other citizen traveling with 2 passports
Hi, everyone,
I was wondering if anybody did something similar. I am a dual US/other citizen. Couple of months ago not knowing the rules, I exited US with my non - US passport when I was going to visit the country of my other nationality. I entered and exited my native country with my US passport, and when I came back to the US, I entered US with my US passport and didn't have any problems. This was about 3 months ago. But I keep worrying that immigration officials will call me later and make problems for me because I exited US with the passport of my country of birth. The law says that US citizens have to ENTER but also LEAVE the US using their US passports.
Anybody else made this mistake? Anybody else got a call after they returned to US from immigration authorities asking them why they left US with a non - US passport?
Thanks in advance
I was wondering if anybody did something similar. I am a dual US/other citizen. Couple of months ago not knowing the rules, I exited US with my non - US passport when I was going to visit the country of my other nationality. I entered and exited my native country with my US passport, and when I came back to the US, I entered US with my US passport and didn't have any problems. This was about 3 months ago. But I keep worrying that immigration officials will call me later and make problems for me because I exited US with the passport of my country of birth. The law says that US citizens have to ENTER but also LEAVE the US using their US passports.
Anybody else made this mistake? Anybody else got a call after they returned to US from immigration authorities asking them why they left US with a non - US passport?
Thanks in advance
Feb 3, 2016, 5:04 pm
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US CBP really has better things to do than search for the phone numbers and call all US citizens who leave the US on another passport. That's assuming they are able to identify a foreign passport holder as a US citizen in the first place; although they would be able to do so in most cases if they wanted. If they were that interested they would set up proper emigration control and you would have to pay for it.
Feb 4, 2016, 8:19 am
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Having said that, there is no formal "exiting the US with a passport" protocol, the airlines collect passport information to ensure entry at the destination.
Feb 10, 2016, 3:36 pm
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Most countries require that there citizens enter with that countries passport. Additionally, many countries require that one must exist with the same passport as one entered with. As others have said, the US does not have an exist procedure.
Feb 12, 2016, 3:49 pm
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This isn't an issue. I've even arrived in the US with the airline having sent my non-US passport info via APIS, and the only result was that it took the CBP officer a little longer to look me up (this was well before Global Entry).
The law (8 USC 1185(b)) says a US citizen may not "depart from or enter, or attempt to depart from or enter, the United States unless he bears a valid United States passport". You were obviously bearing your US passport when you left (since you had it to present at the other end, and I'm assuming you didn't get handed it on the plane) so you were in compliance.
The law (8 USC 1185(b)) says a US citizen may not "depart from or enter, or attempt to depart from or enter, the United States unless he bears a valid United States passport". You were obviously bearing your US passport when you left (since you had it to present at the other end, and I'm assuming you didn't get handed it on the plane) so you were in compliance.
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