Seat Reclining
May 18, 2006, 2:25 pm
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Seat Reclining
I am sure this has come up before, but I couldn't find it (probably my mediocre search skills). Anyhow, I was flying ZRH-BOS this past week when the passenger in front of my fully reclined his/her seat. No worries, I'm not too tall (5'10) but it did cram my knees a bit, so in response, I reclined my seat, not the whole way but I would say about 3/4 of the way.
Behind me was an overweight woman and as I reclined her husband/boyfriend threw me a dirty look and said something, which I didn't hear since I had my headset in. Trying to be a nice guy, I pushed my seat so it was only reclined about 50%, which was still uncomfortable. With two hours left in the flight the boyfriend/husband asks me to push my seat in the upright position, because the lady could not even sit or something. Feeling sad, I obliged, but it was a very long 2 hours!
Did I do anything wrong or was I fully within my rights to recline my seat? Should I have just told the guy that my knees hurt too and that I could do nothing about it?
If it isn't obvious, this has never happened to me before.
Behind me was an overweight woman and as I reclined her husband/boyfriend threw me a dirty look and said something, which I didn't hear since I had my headset in. Trying to be a nice guy, I pushed my seat so it was only reclined about 50%, which was still uncomfortable. With two hours left in the flight the boyfriend/husband asks me to push my seat in the upright position, because the lady could not even sit or something. Feeling sad, I obliged, but it was a very long 2 hours!
Did I do anything wrong or was I fully within my rights to recline my seat? Should I have just told the guy that my knees hurt too and that I could do nothing about it?
If it isn't obvious, this has never happened to me before.
May 18, 2006, 2:30 pm
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I guess it's time for the monthly Seat Recline thread. 
Yes, you were within your rights to recline your seat. I'd have told the fatso to go pound sand at the first request to reduce your recline.
Yes, you were within your rights to recline your seat. I'd have told the fatso to go pound sand at the first request to reduce your recline.
May 18, 2006, 2:31 pm
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If you ask me, good manners is to not recline during meal service. But apart from that you should be in your right to recline. Especially on long haul. I would guess the oversize pax should have asked the FA if there was another seat available?
May 18, 2006, 2:40 pm
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I'm sorry I'd hate to say this (since I am a LARGE fellow ), but that lady should have upgraded to at least an exit row if she knows that she has a problem with tight spaces.
You have every right to recline just as much as the person in front of you. Perhaps if the couple had asked you nicely to not recline then it probably would have been easier to simply ask the person in front of you the same. You are to nice. The only way I would have considered sitting up would be if I was asked nicely. Treat others that way you'd like to be treated.
), but that lady should have upgraded to at least an exit row if she knows that she has a problem with tight spaces.You have every right to recline just as much as the person in front of you. Perhaps if the couple had asked you nicely to not recline then it probably would have been easier to simply ask the person in front of you the same. You are to nice. The only way I would have considered sitting up would be if I was asked nicely. Treat others that way you'd like to be treated.
May 18, 2006, 3:00 pm
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Originally Posted by AirMechanic
I'm sorry I'd hate to say this (since I am a LARGE fellow ), but that lady should have upgraded to at least an exit row if she knows that she has a problem with tight spaces.
You have every right to recline just as much as the person in front of you. Perhaps if the couple had asked you nicely to not recline then it probably would have been easier to simply ask the person in front of you the same. You are to nice. The only way I would have considered sitting up would be if I was asked nicely. Treat others that way you'd like to be treated.
), but that lady should have upgraded to at least an exit row if she knows that she has a problem with tight spaces.You have every right to recline just as much as the person in front of you. Perhaps if the couple had asked you nicely to not recline then it probably would have been easier to simply ask the person in front of you the same. You are to nice. The only way I would have considered sitting up would be if I was asked nicely. Treat others that way you'd like to be treated.
May 18, 2006, 3:02 pm
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Originally Posted by AirMechanic
I'm sorry I'd hate to say this (since I am a LARGE fellow ), but that lady should have upgraded to at least an exit row if she knows that she has a problem with tight spaces.
), but that lady should have upgraded to at least an exit row if she knows that she has a problem with tight spaces.
May 18, 2006, 9:01 pm
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Originally Posted by FWAAA
I guess it's time for the monthly Seat Recline thread.
Yes, you were within your rights to recline your seat. I'd have told the fatso to go pound sand at the first request to reduce your recline.
Yes, you were within your rights to recline your seat. I'd have told the fatso to go pound sand at the first request to reduce your recline.
However, IMHO reclining can be at least somewhat rude on full flights...especially depending on the size/weight of the person behind you.
As for the "fatso", there are many reasons for persons being obese. Not unlike alcoholism, sometimes the reasons are not totally within the obsee person's control.
I don't mean to suggest to others what they should do, but I personally try to be considerate. (Even when the guy in front of me couldn't give a rat's *** about MY comfort). I normally don't recline, or...on long flights...ask the person behind me if they mind if I recline slightly.
May 19, 2006, 5:45 am
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I just can't believe the bad attitudes being expressed here. regardless of whether you are on a plane or not, how about just being nice to other people.
The original poster knew his seat recline caused the passenger behind discomfort, so don't recline. Simple. Some people don't ask politely initially, because they just don't have the communication skills, and find any situation like that difficult to deal with. The fact the passenger was over weight is pretty irrelevant, do you know why the person was overweight? there are many possible explanations, including medication, cancer therapy, metabolic imbalance. Not everyone who is overweight eats donuts all day long, but even if they did it is NO EXCUSE for sh*tty behaviour. Everyone has faults.
Most of what I have seen in this thread is based around petty prejudices, and an "I don't give a **** about anyone else" attitude. Jeez, what is up with you people.
Try being nice to people, it really works, and is a helluva lot less stressful. It also means you don't need to ask silly questions about whether or not you should recline your seat, as the answer is pretty bl***ing obvious.
The original poster knew his seat recline caused the passenger behind discomfort, so don't recline. Simple. Some people don't ask politely initially, because they just don't have the communication skills, and find any situation like that difficult to deal with. The fact the passenger was over weight is pretty irrelevant, do you know why the person was overweight? there are many possible explanations, including medication, cancer therapy, metabolic imbalance. Not everyone who is overweight eats donuts all day long, but even if they did it is NO EXCUSE for sh*tty behaviour. Everyone has faults.
Most of what I have seen in this thread is based around petty prejudices, and an "I don't give a **** about anyone else" attitude. Jeez, what is up with you people.
Try being nice to people, it really works, and is a helluva lot less stressful. It also means you don't need to ask silly questions about whether or not you should recline your seat, as the answer is pretty bl***ing obvious.
May 19, 2006, 2:33 pm
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Originally Posted by slipperyslope
Try being nice to people, it really works, and is a helluva lot less stressful. It also means you don't need to ask silly questions about whether or not you should recline your seat, as the answer is pretty bl***ing obvious.
May 19, 2006, 3:57 pm
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Originally Posted by slipperyslope
I just can't believe the bad attitudes being expressed here. regardless of whether you are on a plane or not, how about just being nice to other people.
Originally Posted by slipperyslope
It also means you don't need to ask silly questions about whether or not you should recline your seat, as the answer is pretty bl***ing obvious.
May 19, 2006, 4:41 pm
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Originally Posted by slipperyslope
I just can't believe the bad attitudes being expressed here. regardless of whether you are on a plane or not, how about just being nice to other people.
The original poster knew his seat recline caused the passenger behind discomfort, so don't recline. Simple. Some people don't ask politely initially, because they just don't have the communication skills, and find any situation like that difficult to deal with. The fact the passenger was over weight is pretty irrelevant, do you know why the person was overweight? there are many possible explanations, including medication, cancer therapy, metabolic imbalance. Not everyone who is overweight eats donuts all day long, but even if they did it is NO EXCUSE for sh*tty behaviour. Everyone has faults.
Most of what I have seen in this thread is based around petty prejudices, and an "I don't give a **** about anyone else" attitude. Jeez, what is up with you people.
Try being nice to people, it really works, and is a helluva lot less stressful. It also means you don't need to ask silly questions about whether or not you should recline your seat, as the answer is pretty bl***ing obvious.
The original poster knew his seat recline caused the passenger behind discomfort, so don't recline. Simple. Some people don't ask politely initially, because they just don't have the communication skills, and find any situation like that difficult to deal with. The fact the passenger was over weight is pretty irrelevant, do you know why the person was overweight? there are many possible explanations, including medication, cancer therapy, metabolic imbalance. Not everyone who is overweight eats donuts all day long, but even if they did it is NO EXCUSE for sh*tty behaviour. Everyone has faults.
Most of what I have seen in this thread is based around petty prejudices, and an "I don't give a **** about anyone else" attitude. Jeez, what is up with you people.
Try being nice to people, it really works, and is a helluva lot less stressful. It also means you don't need to ask silly questions about whether or not you should recline your seat, as the answer is pretty bl***ing obvious.