Aborted Takeoff
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Aborted Takeoff
Had my first aborted takeoff yesterday. I've had lots of aborted landings.
What is everybody else's experience. Which are more common? Aborted takeoffs? Or aborted landings?
What is everybody else's experience. Which are more common? Aborted takeoffs? Or aborted landings?
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For me, 3 aborted takeoffs (one at or beyond v1 in which we lost two engines on a 727 and went into the overrun at Reno in about 1985). The others were at low speed, both in Seoul. On one of these, the power had only just come up and we were going maybe 5mph.
I can remember only two aborted landings, one in San Jose (California) and one in Zurich.
I can remember only two aborted landings, one in San Jose (California) and one in Zurich.
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My total is about like the OP's. One t/o and 4 landings.
The aborted t/o was by far the more pulse raising, involving rapid throttle down and some really aggressive braking. The landings were just go-arounds.
The aborted t/o was by far the more pulse raising, involving rapid throttle down and some really aggressive braking. The landings were just go-arounds.
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I'm at 8 go-arounds, but never what I would consider a rejected takeoff. We spooled up and traveled about 100 feet once, then slowed and got back in line.
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in the last 5 years and a couple of hundred flights I only had one aborted takeoff, which was quite harsh and required an equipment change after taxing back to the gate (brakes needed to be checked out). According to they pilot the got a last minute warning about a huge bird flock (couple of dozen Canadian Geese) crossing the flight path close to the ground and decided it was to dangerous to go all the way through. Probably the sane choice given the size and mass of those birds, would probably had caused severe damage to the CR9.
During the same period I had dozens of go-arounds, my record was a 5 time go around on the approach to SZG, the pilot announced it as last attempt before returning to VIE. The whole flight through the mountains was already rather violent/turbulent )crew even skipped any service and just kept everyone seated) due to strong shifting winds but the landing was really rough with strong crosswinds.
I guess that ratio of rejected take off compared to go-arounds for landing is quite reasonable as tentseller said: You have to land eventually, while a lot of issues which could impact a clean takeoff might be sorted out already during taxiing.
During the same period I had dozens of go-arounds, my record was a 5 time go around on the approach to SZG, the pilot announced it as last attempt before returning to VIE. The whole flight through the mountains was already rather violent/turbulent )crew even skipped any service and just kept everyone seated) due to strong shifting winds but the landing was really rough with strong crosswinds.
I guess that ratio of rejected take off compared to go-arounds for landing is quite reasonable as tentseller said: You have to land eventually, while a lot of issues which could impact a clean takeoff might be sorted out already during taxiing.
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2 aborted landings. One in Tokyo, too much turbulence from a fairly violent rainstorm. Ended up circling another 45 minutes. Other in Kinshasa. Pilot came down at the far end of the runway. Had to pull up to miss trees.
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One aborted (jet) takeoff - sucked a bird at ANC once, and a couple of go-arounds, the last on a BA 744 landing at YVR. The driver really botched the (not-so-short) final - we were probably 300 feet over the runway numbers. Let me tell you, full throttle in a 744 with only a reserve fuel load is impressive.
I have, however, had three landings that should have been aborted - broken planes but no broken bones, fortunately - but none on big jets, only on light planes and a YS-11 in Alaska.
I have, however, had three landings that should have been aborted - broken planes but no broken bones, fortunately - but none on big jets, only on light planes and a YS-11 in Alaska.
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Two aborted takeoffs just short of V1 - same plane, same day. About 18 years ago at MCI. Pilot aborted takeoff, announced "something bad indicated", returned to gate, deplaned all passengers. Waiting in line to rebook, they announced problem was fixed and to return to gate to board. Second attempted takeoff aborted with same problem. Flight canceled, rebooked much later that day.
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the most memorable go-around was an Allegheny Convair 580 at ITH in Mar 1974: the tower wasn't staffed on Sun morning, so ELM Approach (about 30 miles away) cleared us for a visual approach ... as we rolled out of a descending right turn onto final, the captain pushed the throttles forward, raised the nose and flaps, and basically completed a 360-degree turn at pattern altitude ... as we came back around I saw a Cessna 150 turning from the runway onto a taxiway; turned out the pilot was one of my ROTC classmates
I can't count (more accurately, can't begin to recall) how many RTO and go-around test conditions I experienced as either an analysis engineer or Test Director during my three years at Boeing Flight Test; again, though, there's one GA that stands out in my mind, from a 767-200 certification test flight at Moses Lake WA (MWH) in Jul 1982 -- the test condition starts at an altitude of 50 feet with throttle push, followed by a simulated engine failure at full power, which of course induces a not-insignificant roll; as TD, I was in the first observer's seat directly behind the pilot, and for a brief instant my view out the 3L window was almost entirely of the ground
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had exactly the same thing happen 2x, maybe 10 min apart: departing ORD on UA's first 777, about a week after it entered service in June 1995 ... after the second one we went back to the gate; maintenance came out to the jet and reset a fault indicator on a box in the avionics bay, and we proceeded on to DEN
the most memorable go-around was an Allegheny Convair 580 at ITH in Mar 1974: the tower wasn't staffed on Sun morning, so ELM Approach (about 30 miles away) cleared us for a visual approach ... as we rolled out of a descending right turn onto final, the captain pushed the throttles forward, raised the nose and flaps, and basically completed a 360-degree turn at pattern altitude ... as we came back around I saw a Cessna 150 turning from the runway onto a taxiway; turned out the pilot was one of my ROTC classmates
I can't count (more accurately, can't begin to recall) how many RTO and go-around test conditions I experienced as either an analysis engineer or Test Director during my three years at Boeing Flight Test; again, though, there's one GA that stands out in my mind, from a 767-200 certification test flight at Moses Lake WA (MWH) in Jul 1982 -- the test condition starts at an altitude of 50 feet with throttle push, followed by a simulated engine failure at full power, which of course induces a not-insignificant roll; as TD, I was in the first observer's seat directly behind the pilot, and for a brief instant my view out the 3L window was almost entirely of the ground
the most memorable go-around was an Allegheny Convair 580 at ITH in Mar 1974: the tower wasn't staffed on Sun morning, so ELM Approach (about 30 miles away) cleared us for a visual approach ... as we rolled out of a descending right turn onto final, the captain pushed the throttles forward, raised the nose and flaps, and basically completed a 360-degree turn at pattern altitude ... as we came back around I saw a Cessna 150 turning from the runway onto a taxiway; turned out the pilot was one of my ROTC classmates
I can't count (more accurately, can't begin to recall) how many RTO and go-around test conditions I experienced as either an analysis engineer or Test Director during my three years at Boeing Flight Test; again, though, there's one GA that stands out in my mind, from a 767-200 certification test flight at Moses Lake WA (MWH) in Jul 1982 -- the test condition starts at an altitude of 50 feet with throttle push, followed by a simulated engine failure at full power, which of course induces a not-insignificant roll; as TD, I was in the first observer's seat directly behind the pilot, and for a brief instant my view out the 3L window was almost entirely of the ground
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One aborted take-off and one go around about 50 feet above the runway (aircraft ahead not cleared the runway). The aborted take-off was at LCY and we were about a third of the way down the runway, I would guess. The pilot simply announced that we would have another go, which we did with rather more success. I still don't know why he aborted the first one.
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Aborted take offs have been much fewer. In my many years of flying, I have had only 3.
One was never explained, and there was no noise or anything. We taxied back and took off again. Always wondered what happened.
The other were compressor stalls.