Two flights with same flight number cause nightmare at Swanwick ATC
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I am an experienced flyer and I have made this rookie mistake. My wife's flight a few months back was DL65 MAN-ATL which got delayed 26 hours due to an MX issue.
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/delta...cancelled.html
So she flew back the following day. I saw DL65 arriving on time. Well of course that was DL65 for that day - they (DL I assume) had made the delayed flight DL9865 which ended up being about 26 hours late. I felt a fool because I told my family it was on time and had landed safely - it had not. DL65 had landed safely and DL 9865 was still in the air.
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/delta...cancelled.html
So she flew back the following day. I saw DL65 arriving on time. Well of course that was DL65 for that day - they (DL I assume) had made the delayed flight DL9865 which ended up being about 26 hours late. I felt a fool because I told my family it was on time and had landed safely - it had not. DL65 had landed safely and DL 9865 was still in the air.
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CO used to have the same flight number (#1010) for the segment EWR--->SNA and SNA--->EWR before the schedule and flight number are reassigned after merging with UA. However, both flights have different schedule. Also, the same plane is used for both segments, meaning that the outbound flight of EWR has to arrive at SNA and then turn around to get back to EWR. So the chance of having two flight in the air at the same time is non-existent. You still have to be careful, though, that when you look up information regarding the flight such as on-time performance.
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I thought things like COMPUTERS were supposed to sort that kind of thing out. Don't airlines file flight plans with flight numbers? Isn't there something in place to prevent 2 of the same flight numbers in the system at the same time? Seems like it would be a simple fix.
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Earlier in the topic, I gave a direct counter example to your statement, showing it happened at least once on two AA flight sharing the same call sign. (Unless, that is, you have reasons to doubt the airline pilot's blog in question.)
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Full list for UA flight number assignments is on page 95 of the timetable: http://www.united.com/CMS/UADocument.../timetable.pdf.
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As noted, this has been an issue for some carriers for the last few years, as different segments of the same airline's flight number are assigned to different aircraft; and, due to delays, two aircraft using the same flight number, may be in the same en route center's (or tower's or TRACON's) airspace at the same time.
For example, United 262 may be a SFO->DEN flight; and United 262 may also be operated by a different airplane, DEN->PHL. If the first segment is late into DEN and the airline doesn't hold the second segment, there'll be a number conflict. The solution for some carriers at least in domestic airspace, is to add a letter after the flight number, so for example, 262Q and 262T, keeps them apart in the ATC computers.
For example, United 262 may be a SFO->DEN flight; and United 262 may also be operated by a different airplane, DEN->PHL. If the first segment is late into DEN and the airline doesn't hold the second segment, there'll be a number conflict. The solution for some carriers at least in domestic airspace, is to add a letter after the flight number, so for example, 262Q and 262T, keeps them apart in the ATC computers.
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Unfortunately airlines often don't hold the connecting flight in case of delays of the first flight under that flight number. That is the fallacy of "direct flights" with one flight number but a "change of gauge." Pretty deceptive if you ask me, but the US government allows it.
"direct flight (intermediate stop, no change of planes)"
http://www.dot.gov/airconsumer/plane...-flight-delays