Google Inbox app reads all my travel plans, even ones I sent as PDF files!
Nov 15, 2015, 5:00 pm
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Google is not super-human, and can't break crypto. The NSA *might* be able to, at least for larger key sizes than might be generally expected.
Of course, you'll need to find enough people to correspond with who think it's worth the time and bother of encrypting everything with PGP.
Define "dangerous". I use Gmail for everything and couldn't care less if Google is scanning my mail to serve me ads.
Nov 16, 2015, 3:01 am
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^ This. Privacy doesn't exist anymore. You can wrap yourself up in aluminium foil (or the digital equivalent) - it has little effect in the long run.
Nov 16, 2015, 3:33 am
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The Paris attackers managed to plan and carry out their co-ordinated attacks without drawing attention to themselves, so clearly the ability to spy on people is not quite as advanced as many would like to believe. Or perhaps their messages were encrypted in the sense they were in French or Arabic.
Nov 16, 2015, 5:04 am
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The Paris attackers managed to plan and carry out their co-ordinated attacks without drawing attention to themselves, so clearly the ability to spy on people is not quite as advanced as many would like to believe. Or perhaps their messages were encrypted in the sense they were in French or Arabic.
Reading travel itineraries is a world away from what happened in Paris and the state sponsored surveillance that goes along with it.
Nov 16, 2015, 5:15 am
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Google's abandoned motto, Dont' Be Evil, only applied to the humans running
Google. Google's servers never made such promises. When they become
self-aware, what assurance do we have that they won't do evils to humans?
Nov 16, 2015, 12:55 pm
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what will happen when Google's massive servers worldwide become self-aware?
Google's abandoned motto, Dont' Be Evil, only applied to the humans running
Google. Google's servers never made such promises. When they become
self-aware, what assurance do we have that they won't do evils to humans?
Google's abandoned motto, Dont' Be Evil, only applied to the humans running
Google. Google's servers never made such promises. When they become
self-aware, what assurance do we have that they won't do evils to humans?
Nov 16, 2015, 9:01 pm
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In 2004, my brother-in-law sold the house, two cars, and emptied the family bank accounts. He poured all family assets into buying Apple, Inc. stocks. I thought he went crazy. My sister even got a divorce lawyer and started divorce proceedings. Somehow he convinced her to stay with him. Nobody else, myself included, was convinced. We even tried to convince my sister to get the brother-in-law committed, or at the very least, examined by a qualified mental health professional.
Fast forward 10 years. My sister and brother-in-law have more money than they know what to do with. All they do now is go on vacations every month. In fact, their whole life has been turned into a big nonstop vacation. They always fly first class on Emirates... even go out of their way to fly Emirates so they can buy first class. They were going to Japan for Christmas last year. They live in Los Angeles, which is only 11 or 12 hours nonstop to Tokyo. Instead, they took the LOOONG connection flight from LAX to Dubai to Tokyo, just so they could fly Emirates first class. I'm happy for them... but I also wish I had listened to him and bought Apple stocks with all my money.
My point is that *anything* is possible. If I told you to buy Apple stocks in 2004, you'd probably have me committed as well.(or at least buy me a very big tinfoil hat)
Fast forward 10 years. My sister and brother-in-law have more money than they know what to do with. All they do now is go on vacations every month. In fact, their whole life has been turned into a big nonstop vacation. They always fly first class on Emirates... even go out of their way to fly Emirates so they can buy first class. They were going to Japan for Christmas last year. They live in Los Angeles, which is only 11 or 12 hours nonstop to Tokyo. Instead, they took the LOOONG connection flight from LAX to Dubai to Tokyo, just so they could fly Emirates first class. I'm happy for them... but I also wish I had listened to him and bought Apple stocks with all my money.
My point is that *anything* is possible. If I told you to buy Apple stocks in 2004, you'd probably have me committed as well.(or at least buy me a very big tinfoil hat)
Nov 17, 2015, 7:05 am
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In 2004, my brother-in-law sold the house, two cars, and emptied the family bank accounts. He poured all family assets into buying Apple, Inc. stocks. I thought he went crazy. My sister even got a divorce lawyer and started divorce proceedings. Somehow he convinced her to stay with him. Nobody else, myself included, was convinced. We even tried to convince my sister to get the brother-in-law committed, or at the very least, examined by a qualified mental health professional.
Fast forward 10 years. My sister and brother-in-law have more money than they know what to do with. All they do now is go on vacations every month. In fact, their whole life has been turned into a big nonstop vacation. They always fly first class on Emirates... even go out of their way to fly Emirates so they can buy first class. They were going to Japan for Christmas last year. They live in Los Angeles, which is only 11 or 12 hours nonstop to Tokyo. Instead, they took the LOOONG connection flight from LAX to Dubai to Tokyo, just so they could fly Emirates first class. I'm happy for them... but I also wish I had listened to him and bought Apple stocks with all my money.
My point is that *anything* is possible. If I told you to buy Apple stocks in 2004, you'd probably have me committed as well.(or at least buy me a very big tinfoil hat)
Fast forward 10 years. My sister and brother-in-law have more money than they know what to do with. All they do now is go on vacations every month. In fact, their whole life has been turned into a big nonstop vacation. They always fly first class on Emirates... even go out of their way to fly Emirates so they can buy first class. They were going to Japan for Christmas last year. They live in Los Angeles, which is only 11 or 12 hours nonstop to Tokyo. Instead, they took the LOOONG connection flight from LAX to Dubai to Tokyo, just so they could fly Emirates first class. I'm happy for them... but I also wish I had listened to him and bought Apple stocks with all my money.
My point is that *anything* is possible. If I told you to buy Apple stocks in 2004, you'd probably have me committed as well.(or at least buy me a very big tinfoil hat)
Nov 17, 2015, 2:44 pm
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I thought all Apple employees were required to wear tinfoil hats at work?
Back to Google scanning the PDF in my email and putting everything in my Google Calendar....
Is the scanning limited to text only? What will happen if my girlfriend(a registered nurse in Boston) emails me a nude photo of her in her uniform, along with the note "see you next Saturday? (she's flying in to see me on Saturday day) Will Google scan the photo and decide that I have a doctor's appointment on Saturday?
Come to think of it, I guess I should look in to EVERYTHING in my Google Calendar and make sure there's nothing in there that other people shouldn't see. I do let my co-worker and secretary access Google Calendar on my work computer, but only when I'm in the same room.
Back to Google scanning the PDF in my email and putting everything in my Google Calendar....
Is the scanning limited to text only? What will happen if my girlfriend(a registered nurse in Boston) emails me a nude photo of her in her uniform, along with the note "see you next Saturday? (she's flying in to see me on Saturday day) Will Google scan the photo and decide that I have a doctor's appointment on Saturday?
Come to think of it, I guess I should look in to EVERYTHING in my Google Calendar and make sure there's nothing in there that other people shouldn't see. I do let my co-worker and secretary access Google Calendar on my work computer, but only when I'm in the same room.
Nov 17, 2015, 5:12 pm
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Is the scanning limited to text only? What will happen if my girlfriend(a registered nurse in Boston) emails me a nude photo of her in her uniform, along with the note "see you next Saturday? (she's flying in to see me on Saturday day) Will Google scan the photo and decide that I have a doctor's appointment on Saturday?
Nov 17, 2015, 5:50 pm
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Yes, stocks can rise or fall on the stock market. But I'm missing the next step: how does that demonstrate that anything is possible? If the Apple shares had turned into a donkey, then sprouted wings, and then flown faster than the speed of light, I would be more inclined to agree with you.
And I would also like a copy of the girlfriend's email.
And I would also like a copy of the girlfriend's email.
Nov 17, 2015, 7:14 pm
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The Paris attackers managed to plan and carry out their co-ordinated attacks without drawing attention to themselves, so clearly the ability to spy on people is not quite as advanced as many would like to believe. Or perhaps their messages were encrypted in the sense they were in French or Arabic.
But even encryption need not be advanced/used for communications to be masked. Video game comm channels being monitored wouldn't necessarily lead to a whole lot of proper understanding about a criminal plot being in the works.
