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Old May 15, 2010, 7:09 pm
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Fighter Jets escort Cathay Pacific Plane under a bomb threat to Vancouver

From the BBC

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/8685018.stm

Canadian fighter jets have escorted a Cathay Pacific airliner to land at Vancouver airport after receiving an alert of a bomb threat, officials said.

The Vancouver-bound flight, which originated from Hong Kong, landed safely at 1340 (2040 GMT) and was towed to a secure part of the airport.

The passengers remained on board the plane as police officers investigated the alert.

The two CF-18 jets were scrambled after the pilot issued the alert.


OK, if you think there's a bomb on board so you scrambler fighters to bring it in, why do you make everybody remain on board while you investigate? Everybody sit there, we're looking for a bomb, just remain calm in this metal tube.
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Old May 15, 2010, 7:28 pm
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OK, if you think there's a bomb on board...
You (= they) know damn well there is no bomb on board. This reaction is all just for public consumption; gotta keep the folks scared y'know.
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Old May 15, 2010, 7:34 pm
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Originally Posted by cordelli
OK, if you think there's a bomb on board so you scrambler fighters to bring it in, why do you make everybody remain on board while you investigate? Everybody sit there, we're looking for a bomb, just remain calm in this metal tube.
Well ... possibly because the bomb might be in one of the passenger's shoes, or underwear, or otherwise on the person. If you really think there's a bomb, and you take everyone off the plane, you could just as easily be letting the bomber take the bomb into other areas.
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Old May 15, 2010, 7:39 pm
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Well ... possibly because the bomb might be in one of the passenger's shoes, or underwear, or otherwise on the person. If you really think there's a bomb, and you take everyone off the plane, you could just as easily be letting the bomber take the bomb into other areas.
Yeah, other areas that would be less expensive to repair if there was actually a bomb.
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Old May 15, 2010, 7:40 pm
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Originally Posted by Wally Bird
You (= they) know damn well there is no bomb on board. This reaction is all just for public consumption; gotta keep the folks scared y'know.
And they've gotta make sure the pilots get some flight time... For once, it wasn't our tax dollars, but what is the point of sending in fighters? Will they somehow transport the bomb off the plane
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Old May 15, 2010, 8:37 pm
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And they've gotta make sure the pilots get some flight time... For once, it wasn't our tax dollars, but what is the point of sending in fighters? Will they somehow transport the bomb off the plane
I'm assuming the Air Force did not know the exact nature of the "threat". Being in close formation is not a Good Idea if there's a chance the A340 is going to explode. Then again maybe they did know what the situation actually was and just got in some quality scramble time.

Look for some more copycats as long as these morons keep getting the publicity they are after.
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Old May 15, 2010, 10:13 pm
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CBC reporting it was a bomb threat called in to the RCMP detachment in Richmond (where YVR is located) 2 hours and 35 minutes before arrival.
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Old May 16, 2010, 1:45 am
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"The passengers remained on board the plane as police officers investigated the alert."

Stupid jackasses. The passengers should have beaten the crap out of the person who made this decision as soon as they were released.

"You were concerned there was a bomb and you kept us on board?!?" POW!!!
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Old May 16, 2010, 7:37 am
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Passenger looking out the window: "Hey, look at the fighter! We must be flying over an air show. Are those rockets real?"
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Old May 16, 2010, 7:43 am
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Originally Posted by jkhuggins
Well ... possibly because the bomb might be in one of the passenger's shoes, or underwear, or otherwise on the person. If you really think there's a bomb, and you take everyone off the plane, you could just as easily be letting the bomber take the bomb into other areas.
That is where an intelligent security response would be to move the plane away from the terminal and let everyone off on the tarmac with enough security to prevent them from running all over the airport grounds. The risk of impact from a real bomb is greatly reduced if people are spread out while there is no risk of introducing the bomb into the terminal, etc.
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Oxymoron alert !

Originally Posted by tev9999
...intelligent security response...
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Old May 16, 2010, 8:12 am
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Why would a pilot ever endanger himself and every other person on board by informing authorities that a person had a bomb or was taking over the aircraft?The fighters are sent up for one reason and that is to shoot the passenger plane down if it is determined that they may endanger people on the ground by perhaps using the plane as a bomb.So a call for help may cause the death of everyone on board
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Old May 16, 2010, 8:28 am
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Take a deep breath and read the article again.

Originally Posted by thebug622
Why would a pilot ever endanger himself and every other person on board by informing authorities that a person had a bomb or was taking over the aircraft?
As the article said, the bomb threat was phoned in. Thus, "the authorities" knew about the threat before the pilots did.


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The fighters are sent up for one reason and that is to shoot the passenger plane down if it is determined that they may endanger people on the ground by perhaps using the plane as a bomb.
No, they are sent up there in case the plane has been taken over and was being used as a guided missile.


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So a call for help may cause the death of everyone on board
Uh, no. See the first paragraph.
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Old May 16, 2010, 8:53 am
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Originally Posted by LessO2
Originally Posted by thebug622
The fighters are sent up for one reason and that is to shoot the passenger plane down if it is determined that they may endanger people on the ground by perhaps using the plane as a bomb.
No, they are sent up there in case the plane has been taken over and was being used as a guided missile.
I don't see how your reply contradicts the quoted comment. Are you suggesting there's something else the fighter could do in that situation?
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Old May 16, 2010, 9:09 am
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Originally Posted by antirealist
I don't see how your reply contradicts the quoted comment. Are you suggesting there's something else the fighter could do in that situation?
I'm saying that with the assumption that there was simply a bomb on board that the fighter jets were useless.

I'm saying that if someone overpowered the pilots and was in command of the aircraft, then the fighter jets might be useful.
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