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Old Jan 22, 2016, 9:39 am
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Reuters: Boeing cuts 747-8 production in half

Per Reuters:
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-bo...-idUSKCN0UZ2VE

Boeing Co. said on Thursday it will cut production of its 747-8 jumbo jet in half and take a $569 million charge in the fourth quarter as it faces dwindling sales.
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Old Jan 22, 2016, 2:48 pm
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It's looking more and more like the Air Force One order will be the last for the plane in a passenger carrying configuration of any type.
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Old Jan 23, 2016, 5:45 am
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It's really too bad. The 747-8i is a very comfortable ride. But the 77W,777X and A350 killed most of the market from a cost standpoint. Still its comfort, physical appeal and actual costs must work for certain markets.
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Old Jan 24, 2016, 3:22 am
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It's really too bad. The 747-8i is a very comfortable ride. But the 77W,777X and A350 killed most of the market from a cost standpoint. Still its comfort, physical appeal and actual costs must work for certain markets.
It does, but the thing is that market is limited and owned by the A380. Apart from the physical appeal, but try putting the bottom-line value on that in a spreadsheet!

The future of the 747-8 hinges solely on the freighter market, which is very soft indeed. Or, rather, it is very soft indeed for the traditional freight carriers such as Lufthansa, Cargolux and Atlas. There's plenty of growth in cargo, however, it is confined to the integrators. And what the integrators want, is the 777F.
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Old Jan 24, 2016, 8:16 pm
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I am really sorry I have never gotten the chance to fly the 747 as I do not do a lot of international travel. It is such a neat plane. I watched a great documentary on the making and history of the 747 just last week. Can anyone tell me what routes, and airlines, that are 747 heavy?
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Old Jan 24, 2016, 10:21 pm
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Domestically UA & DL both have 747-400s flying routes.

European BA has the 747-400 & LH has both the 747-400 & 747-8i. I believe AF just got ride of their last 747-400.

LY & SY fly the 747-400

QF flies 747-400

KE has the 747-400 & 747-8i, TG may have a few left, CI has 747-400
OZ currently has a few 747-400.
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Old Jan 25, 2016, 12:53 am
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British Airways have just extended their life of their 747-4s so they should e around for while yet (unless oil prices increases again). Try getting a seat on the upper deck if you do fly for the full experience.

The A380 is technically cutting edge but will never have the elegance of the 747. Unfortunately the 747-8 does not seem to have gone down well with the airlines which are using it, mores the pity.
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Old Jan 25, 2016, 6:35 am
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I've read several statements from LH & KE about how the 747-8i is performing better (financially) than originally expected and goes to cities where an A380 is not needed/available/allowed. The real reason I think they will not keep them around as long as they kept the 747-400s is the "NextGen" twin jets (787, A350 & 777X).

Definitely agree with the sitting on the upper deck.

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British Airways have just extended their life of their 747-4s so they should e around for while yet (unless oil prices increases again). Try getting a seat on the upper deck if you do fly for the full experience.

The A380 is technically cutting edge but will never have the elegance of the 747. Unfortunately the 747-8 does not seem to have gone down well with the airlines which are using it, mores the pity.
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Old Jan 26, 2016, 9:48 am
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This is sad. Hopeful the unique front load capability of the 74F will keep it around a little longer. These oil prices aren't hurting

1readyset2go DL flies the 744 domestically, check out this thread: http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/delta...ic-routes.html
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Old Jan 29, 2016, 2:27 am
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Originally Posted by Yoshi212
I've read several statements from LH & KE about how the 747-8i is performing better (financially) than originally expected and goes to cities where an A380 is not needed/available/allowed. The real reason I think they will not keep them around as long as they kept the 747-400s is the "NextGen" twin jets (787, A350 & 777X).

Definitely agree with the sitting on the upper deck.
It seems that the 747-8 is a stop gap, there are completely re-engineered aircraft planed under Project Yellowstone, the first of these was the 787,
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boeing...wstone_Project
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