American teens and alcohol in other countries
#16
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I always have to laugh at the national campaign of billboards and posters telling parents not to buy alcohol for their kids and threatening punishment. Every time I'm back home and see one I wonder if whoever paid for it realizes that it's not even illegal. (In fact, hosting a "teen drinking party" is legal--and was quite common when I was a teenager--if you have the guests' parents' permission. I'm told by older friends that before we were forced to raise the drinking age to 21, it was even less of a big deal.)
That said, again, we're the exception. In a number of states you can catch a felony for buying your 20-year-old a six-pack.
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Alcohol is a bit like prostitution. It's a vice. It's going to happen no matter what barriers you try and put around it, so better to have it under some form of control, rather than forbidding it outright.
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#19
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Wisconsin is not alone. In Texas, it is legal for minors to consume beer and wine in establishments when given by their parents as well. They cannot order it or be served, but Mom & Dad can and let them have it legally.
I have never seen it abused.
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I have never seen it abused.
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Wisconsin is relatively special in this regard, even relevant to Texas.
While I am certainly of the opinion that a clearer channel of communication about the actual behavior of children is very useful to try to manage for potential problems related to indulgences of various sorts, I've also seen parent-facilitated alcohol consumption be a major contributor to the same "supervised" children getting plastered or even having other alcohol consumption related problems.
I'm pretty sure that surveys conducted in some upper midwest states showed that children who were provided drinks by parents in high school were also more likely to be users of more strictly controlled substances (say marijuana for example) in college than their college-attending peers who were not provided alcohol by parents.
If you were to refuse to let your kids have alcohol in a foreign country where it is legal for them to do so then they'd just find a way to sneak out and get it anyway, and then they'd be out of your supervision while getting drunk for the first time. Better to let them do it in a controlled, observed manner.
I'm pretty sure that surveys conducted in some upper midwest states showed that children who were provided drinks by parents in high school were also more likely to be users of more strictly controlled substances (say marijuana for example) in college than their college-attending peers who were not provided alcohol by parents.
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To what extent is an 18/19 year old under your supervision or do they require your permission for such things anyway? I understand you may be paying for the trip and even for the drinks, but isn't deciding what to drink and complying with applicable laws a matter for them, whether at home or abroad?
So far she has not demonstrated any desire to sneak out and party at home, and I seriously doubt she'd do so in Santiago. She's a bit timid about venturing out alone in urban areas in the US, even though we've pushed her to be more adventurous.
#22
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When my son was 14 we went to Italy where we were served several limoncellas after dinner. We got lost going back to the hotel and wandered for blocks eventually ending up in an archaeological dig. He is now 28 and this remains one of his all time favorite memories from our travels. So I vote for the occasional adult beverage.
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I believe strongly that a lot of our problems with alcohol in America (particularly with binge drinking and young people) stem from the Puritanical attitude toward alcohol as a forbidden fruit, coupled with the Anglo-American tradition of treating drinking-to-get-drunk as an activity in and of itself, rather than alcohol being a complement to food or conversation or whatever.
Want your kid to behave responsibly with alcohol? Model the behavior, teach and discuss on a regular basis and you've got a chance at it.
p.s. to the OP's question: I believe in following the law where you are. If my legal aged teen wanted a glass of wine in Italy, I would allow it.