Fixing a rf car seat in aircraft
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For US carriers, the FAA specifically states that rear facing seats should be used for infants
For US carriers, the FAA specifically states that rear facing seats should be used for infants
Always follow the manufacturer's instructions when using a CRS. FAA recommends that a child weighing:
Less than 20 pounds use a rear-facing CRS
From 20 to 40 pounds use a forward-facing CRS
More than 40 pounds use an airplane seat belt
A child may also use an alternative, such as a a harness-type restraint, if it is approved by FAA. FAA has approved one restraint appropriate for children weighing between 22 and 44 pounds. This type of restraint is not safe for use in motor vehicles.
Less than 20 pounds use a rear-facing CRS
From 20 to 40 pounds use a forward-facing CRS
More than 40 pounds use an airplane seat belt
A child may also use an alternative, such as a a harness-type restraint, if it is approved by FAA. FAA has approved one restraint appropriate for children weighing between 22 and 44 pounds. This type of restraint is not safe for use in motor vehicles.
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This whole thing is a confusing mess for me. I need the car seat when I get to the destination. Help!
Looking at the FAA it says less than 20lbs use a rear facing seat. I will be flying with an infant less than 20lbs. So, I can use the normal car seat? That is what I am confused about. It is a Britax Chaperone and says it is certified for air travel. Thanks in advance for any help!
Looking at the FAA it says less than 20lbs use a rear facing seat. I will be flying with an infant less than 20lbs. So, I can use the normal car seat? That is what I am confused about. It is a Britax Chaperone and says it is certified for air travel. Thanks in advance for any help!
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Yes, those FAA "recommendations" are out-of-date. They allow rear-facing car seats for older children. But you don't have to worry about that-yet!
Is this it?
http://www.britaxusa.com/car-seats/chaperone
Double check the manual but I believe you install it on the plane without the base. Practice this before leaving in your car.
You might want to just leave the base behind if you wont be doing too much driving. One less thing to drag along...
Here are a couple of documents you might want to print up and bring along (assuming it's a U.S. company).
http://www.faa.gov/other_visit/aviat.../InFO11007.pdf
http://www.faa.gov/documentLibrary/m...%20120-87B.pdf
Is this it?
http://www.britaxusa.com/car-seats/chaperone
Double check the manual but I believe you install it on the plane without the base. Practice this before leaving in your car.
You might want to just leave the base behind if you wont be doing too much driving. One less thing to drag along...
Here are a couple of documents you might want to print up and bring along (assuming it's a U.S. company).
http://www.faa.gov/other_visit/aviat.../InFO11007.pdf
http://www.faa.gov/documentLibrary/m...%20120-87B.pdf
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Thanks for the info. Yes, that's the car seat. I didn't want to open the box if it couldn't be used on a plane. Unfortunately, there will be quite a bit of flying being done from 6 weeks after birth until who knows when.
I will practice before we start flying.
I know I'll be back with more questions as the time gets nearer. Thanks for all the info you provide.
I will practice before we start flying.
I know I'll be back with more questions as the time gets nearer. Thanks for all the info you provide.
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Thanks for the info. Yes, that's the car seat. I didn't want to open the box if it couldn't be used on a plane. Unfortunately, there will be quite a bit of flying being done from 6 weeks after birth until who knows when.
I will practice before we start flying.
I know I'll be back with more questions as the time gets nearer. Thanks for all the info you provide.
I will practice before we start flying.
I know I'll be back with more questions as the time gets nearer. Thanks for all the info you provide.
There is no point in buying a car seat for use on the plane if the airline refuses to let he seat be usd. Check with the airline you will be flying.
I am flying the new grandbaby from the UK to US. To get a nonstop I chose Virgin because they provide a special infant/child seat when you when you buy a child fare. Virgin does not allow car seats in the cabin.
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This whole thing is a confusing mess for me. I need the car seat when I get to the destination. Help!
Looking at the FAA it says less than 20lbs use a rear facing seat. I will be flying with an infant less than 20lbs. So, I can use the normal car seat? That is what I am confused about. It is a Britax Chaperone and says it is certified for air travel. Thanks in advance for any help!
Looking at the FAA it says less than 20lbs use a rear facing seat. I will be flying with an infant less than 20lbs. So, I can use the normal car seat? That is what I am confused about. It is a Britax Chaperone and says it is certified for air travel. Thanks in advance for any help!
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Don't call, email them from their site. Only call the company when dealing with something solid like the reservations and taking care of something you can verify later (like seat assignments).
Don't call about general information, especially something that could be a problem at the airport.
Anything can be said over the phone while an email can be printed up and brought to the airport. Also, many companies have remote call centers and the information they give out isn't always accurate.
Don't call about general information, especially something that could be a problem at the airport.
Anything can be said over the phone while an email can be printed up and brought to the airport. Also, many companies have remote call centers and the information they give out isn't always accurate.
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Their policies will be spelled out on the website. This may be a bit tricky to find but is the best thing. That way you have a written policy to print out and show the agents and FA if there is any question.
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Some airlines are better than others when it comes to that information on the site but all U.S. companies have to accept FAA approved seats for children who have their own place on the airplane. The airline cannot refuse the parents to install the car seat and have to move them if necessary.
What isn't clear is whether over 20lbs. & 1 year old children have the right to rear-face on the aircraft. Under those parameters, they do.
What isn't clear is whether over 20lbs. & 1 year old children have the right to rear-face on the aircraft. Under those parameters, they do.
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No issues at all with the rear facing seat. Not even a second glance. Definitely recommend buying them their own seat. We had our hands free to eat and were able to function normally instead of holding a baby for hours on end.
Was fairly easy to fasten the rear facing seat into the seat. The 757 domestic F seat was a little more difficult than the 767. The clicking part wouldn't move enough to get a secure (very, very tight) fit.
Was fairly easy to fasten the rear facing seat into the seat. The 757 domestic F seat was a little more difficult than the 767. The clicking part wouldn't move enough to get a secure (very, very tight) fit.
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No issues at all with the rear facing seat. Not even a second glance. Definitely recommend buying them their own seat. We had our hands free to eat and were able to function normally instead of holding a baby for hours on end.
Was fairly easy to fasten the rear facing seat into the seat. The 757 domestic F seat was a little more difficult than the 767. The clicking part wouldn't move enough to get a secure (very, very tight) fit.
Was fairly easy to fasten the rear facing seat into the seat. The 757 domestic F seat was a little more difficult than the 767. The clicking part wouldn't move enough to get a secure (very, very tight) fit.
Gald everything went well for you! One trick I've learned is to recline the seat back while installing the car seat. When you are done, put the seat back in the upright position. I get a very solid installation this way.
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Had to get a seatbelt extender for flight yesterday. It was a domestic F 757-200. Seven row F class. First time I could not make it work. Before it was not a great fit, this time it just wouldn't reach at all. Seatbelt extender was great because it was an extremely tight fit.