ChampagneSocialist

Hi everyone,

Sorry if asked before - I've searched but couldn't find anything specifically relevant to TG - I'll be flying HAN-SIN-LHR on SQ, with the HAN-SIN leg on SilkAir (MI) metal as SQ codeshare.

Would this earn any TG ROP miles? The general consensus from other *A carrier forums seems to be that *A metal is needed to earn *A miles (even if on *A code), but TG's own advice seems ambiguous:
http://www.thaiairways.com/en_TH/rop...Alliance.page?

Quote: "Codeshare flights among Star Alliance airlines also earn miles according to the paid booking class code. These tickets will show a 2 letter/digit airline code, followed by a 4 digit flight number, and can be purchased from the marketing carrier, travel website or travel agent."

Does anyone have first hand experience? Much appreciated! (If not, I'll feed back in a couple of weeks)

xyzman29

If the flight has a Singapore Air flight code (IE. SQ1224) on your ticket, then you will get points. If it only has the SilkAir flight code, you won't.

Note: That flight code must be on YOUR ticket.

BinSabai

this would be the normal logic, but then SQ is always somehow Special...

ChampagneSocialist

Sorry, now I'm confused - would I receive TG miles for SQ-coded SilkAir metal flights or not?

Thai-Kiwi

I don't think BinSabai gave you a definitive response! More of a general comment on SQ.

I suggest you contact the ROP office whilst waiting to see if any others have experience.

xyzman29

Last time I flew a SQ coded SilkAir flight, the points weren't automatically added, but after I filled out the 'missing points' form, they came through without any problem.

brunos

In theory, the answer is no.
*A Partner airline flights (SQ) operated by non-partner (MI) do not earn ROP miles.

The statement you quote is nt ambiguous : "Codeshare flights among Star Alliance airlines also earn miles according to the paid booking class code". What you are using is NOT a codeshare flight among *A airlines, as MI is not *A member of affiliate.

That being said, TG IT system is not so good, so they might credit you. In practice they would "invoice" SQ and SQ would deny it, but it could get lost in the big ocean of things.

Creole Spirit

the questipon is if SQ is marketing and selling that flight 100% on its own (only by SQ-code) but using Silk's equipment (due to route specifics such as runway length or just due to capacity) or if Silk has its own code on that flight and SQ is just "code-sharing".
If just code-sharing, no ROP mileage but if sold exclusively by SQ, then also full mileage accredition

ChampagneSocialist

Thanks everyone. Seems like this is another classic case of TG - rules say various things (or don't mention some important details) and in practice the result can also go various ways depending on luck

So, in the interest of scientific enquiry for the forum, I've just registered my TG number to the flight. It is a genuine codeshare (i.e. bookable either on SQ or MI) but with a connecting flight afterwards on SQ code/metal.

Interestingly, *G bonus check-in baggage allowance has been acknowledged on the booking including on the MI-metal portion. I will try my luck and see if I also get *G lounge access in HAN. Shall report back.

yosithezet

Silk is not a member of Star Alliance and you will not earn miles for any Silk run flight. I have a Krisflyer account for any time I'm on a Silk flight, regardless of whose flight number is on my ticket.

You will not get lounge access as Silk Air is not a member of Star Alliance.

This is just like how you would not earn Krisflyer miles when you fly Thai Smile and you wouldn't get lounge access, even if your ticket had a TG flight number on it.

If somehow I'm wrong, please make sure to come back and correct me. I'd love to be wrong about this one!

ChampagneSocialist

Thanks, I appreciate the odds are against me on paper, but as I don't think anyone in the thread has actually yet *tried* and succeeded it's worth a go!

I have zero KF miles currently (and don't intend to credit there otherwise, whilst TG still offers GUP), so 1500 or so orphan KF miles wouldn't be of much use to me anyway.

ChampagneSocialist

Hi everyone, I have now tried this, and sad to say that TG miles did *not* post for my HAN-BKK SQ/MI codeshare flight. On my TG ROP account, it doesn't even say "0 miles" credited - the flight simply doesn't show up in the table of recent activities.

Btw my boarding pass showed an MI flight number only, it also showed my TG ROP number. However upon check-in the desk agent specifically mentioned that I would not have lounge access as MI was not a *A member.

I had planned to submit a missing miles claim to TG, but given that my boarding pass does not show an SQ flight number I think it's highly unlikely they would entertain me.

yosithezet

Your premise that nobody here had tried and was speaking from experience was mistaken. I opened an account after having gone through what you went through. We speak from experience.

I am TG*G and use my Krisflyer account exclusively for Silk and for redeeming on SQ with discounted awards after having transferred miles in from credit cards.

nldogbert

I believe that for all *A program, it is the operating metal that matters, even though the ticket stock or sold by is a *A code. I have been in these situations a number of time and they never ever get credited to my *A account and calling, it is always the same information. Hope this helps! Cheers!

ChampagneSocialist

Just to report a happy ending (of sorts) - I finally got round to attempting a retro-claim on the MI segment on the SQ website, and lo and behold, I am now the proud owner of 1366 orphan SQ KF Elite miles

The KF miles posted instantly and it worked despite having "used" my TG ROP number with the booking at check-in (boarding pass has my ROP number printed on it although doesn't state *G as on my kosher SQ BP).