[LEFT MARRIOTT] The Park Central San Francisco [Master Thread]
#271
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It is weird.
There's also a Park Central New York, with the same logo and web design, though no apparent Starwood affiliation.
And a Park Central Hotel in Miami, but design-wise, there doesn't appear to be any relationship to New York and now, San Francisco.
Yet the Westin website shows it under the Westin flag as the Park Central San Francisco.
Will be interesting to see what this all means.
There's also a Park Central New York, with the same logo and web design, though no apparent Starwood affiliation.
And a Park Central Hotel in Miami, but design-wise, there doesn't appear to be any relationship to New York and now, San Francisco.
Yet the Westin website shows it under the Westin flag as the Park Central San Francisco.
Will be interesting to see what this all means.
There are also a number of Westin hotels/resorts that are part of the Westin brand but don't carry the name. Like the Swan, Mona Surfrider, and Sunset Key Cottages.
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It doesn't have to be affiliated with Starwood. There are 2 SLS hotels that are not affiliated with Starwood either.
There are also a number of Westin hotels/resorts that are part of the Westin brand but don't carry the name. Like the Swan, Mona Surfrider, and Sunset Key Cottages.
There are also a number of Westin hotels/resorts that are part of the Westin brand but don't carry the name. Like the Swan, Mona Surfrider, and Sunset Key Cottages.
Certainly not unprecedented, but IMO an odd series of events that will be interesting nonetheless.
#273
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It doesn't have to be affiliated with Starwood. There are 2 SLS hotels that are not affiliated with Starwood either.
There are also a number of Westin hotels/resorts that are part of the Westin brand but don't carry the name. Like ........ Mona Surfrider, .........
There are also a number of Westin hotels/resorts that are part of the Westin brand but don't carry the name. Like ........ Mona Surfrider, .........
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#275
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So if they've resolved the contract dispute with Starwood and have returned to the system, why the change in name?
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Sold for $350MM
http://www.bizjournals.com/sanfranci...X&t=1422319981
Says nothing about remaining in SPG, even if not a Westin
Says nothing about remaining in SPG, even if not a Westin
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http://www.bizjournals.com/sanfranci...X&t=1422319981
Says nothing about remaining in SPG, even if not a Westin
Says nothing about remaining in SPG, even if not a Westin
Highgate Hotels will continue managing the hotel as an independent property. The Park Central San Francisco was built in 1984. It underwent a $28.3 million renovation in 2007. LaSalle says it will begin new renovations in the fourth quarter of 2016.
I wonder if Starwood is playing nice through the transition because Highgate runs several other hotels under Starwood Brand names?
Yelp, Foursquare, Wikipedia, etc. all seem to have been updated to reflect the new name a wipe out references to Westin.
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I received this email this morning from SPG
Dear beachfan,
"We are writing to inform you of an update in the status of The Park Central San Francisco, formerly The Westin San Francisco Market Street. While the property will no longer be a Westin hotel, we have agreed to continue to allow the hotel to remain on certain Starwood systems, including SPG, on a temporary basis following the closing of the sale.
We are very pleased that the hotel will continue to participate fully in the SPG program but we realize that this news may be upsetting to our valued members who cancelled reservations or those who we assisted in moving reservations to other Starwood hotels in the San Francisco area. Upon learning that the hotel was leaving the chain as of January 23rd, it was important that we inform all our guests, and work with members most affected by the change. We regret any disappointment this news may cause and hope we can count on your understanding.
For our members who will be staying at the hotel, we are pleased to advise that all SPG benefits will be honored. If you have questions, please do not hesitate to contact either the hotel team at 415-974-6400 or the Starwood Customer Service team at [email protected].
We appreciate your understanding and look forward to being of service in the future."
I'm thinking I still might be better off in the Towers at the St. Francis for a comparable rate. I see some stated they preferred the St. Francis. The Westin is a hair better located for me (because of BART) but not so far as too make a difference.
Any other thoughts on my choice options?
Dear beachfan,
"We are writing to inform you of an update in the status of The Park Central San Francisco, formerly The Westin San Francisco Market Street. While the property will no longer be a Westin hotel, we have agreed to continue to allow the hotel to remain on certain Starwood systems, including SPG, on a temporary basis following the closing of the sale.
We are very pleased that the hotel will continue to participate fully in the SPG program but we realize that this news may be upsetting to our valued members who cancelled reservations or those who we assisted in moving reservations to other Starwood hotels in the San Francisco area. Upon learning that the hotel was leaving the chain as of January 23rd, it was important that we inform all our guests, and work with members most affected by the change. We regret any disappointment this news may cause and hope we can count on your understanding.
For our members who will be staying at the hotel, we are pleased to advise that all SPG benefits will be honored. If you have questions, please do not hesitate to contact either the hotel team at 415-974-6400 or the Starwood Customer Service team at [email protected].
We appreciate your understanding and look forward to being of service in the future."
I'm thinking I still might be better off in the Towers at the St. Francis for a comparable rate. I see some stated they preferred the St. Francis. The Westin is a hair better located for me (because of BART) but not so far as too make a difference.
Any other thoughts on my choice options?
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We are very pleased that the hotel will continue to participate fully in the SPG program...
I'm thinking I still might be better off in the Towers at the St. Francis for a comparable rate. I see some stated they preferred the St. Francis. The Westin is a hair better located for me (because of BART) but not so far as too make a difference...
I'm thinking I still might be better off in the Towers at the St. Francis for a comparable rate. I see some stated they preferred the St. Francis. The Westin is a hair better located for me (because of BART) but not so far as too make a difference...
I've stayed at all of the SPG options. I like the more modern feel of the Westin, but it is also closer to Moscone, where I will be attending a conference. For old classics I prefer The Palace, especially because it has a nice pool as well as being closer to Moscone. However it's undergoing renovations so has less availability. The W used to have a nice pool but closed it, and it's always more expensive.
I've also been following the "Plat100 walked from St. Francis" thread and it's left a bad taste. Finally, I'm also hoping the recent confusion chased away so many Plats that I have a better shot at an upgrade!
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It's not bookable beyond December 31. Also, clicking through to the hotel from the search list shows a big picture of the Westin sign.
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I received this email this morning from SPG
"...we have agreed to continue to allow the hotel to remain on certain Starwood systems, including SPG, on a temporary basis following the closing of the sale.....
We are very pleased that the hotel will continue to participate fully in the SPG program ...
"...we have agreed to continue to allow the hotel to remain on certain Starwood systems, including SPG, on a temporary basis following the closing of the sale.....
We are very pleased that the hotel will continue to participate fully in the SPG program ...
#282
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I find it hard to believe the will value their SPG members when I always felt snubbed as a Platinum.
#283
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I am at this hotel now and they did honor SPG benefits, including offering green choice and checkin points.
The people at the front desk say they arent sure yet if they will stay SPG, but for now are acting as they are. The difference from when it was Westin is really nothing, but they have done an excellent job purging the westin logos from everywhere throughout the hotel.
The people at the front desk say they arent sure yet if they will stay SPG, but for now are acting as they are. The difference from when it was Westin is really nothing, but they have done an excellent job purging the westin logos from everywhere throughout the hotel.
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I would love to know the full story behind the scenes.
From the sounds of it, there is a bit of an identity crisis at the property.
Not good from a branding perspective at all.