CRTW1 with one segment in Y: Fee to up to C
Sep 29, 2014, 3:56 pm
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CRTW1 with one segment in Y: Fee to up to C
I am planning a CRWT. On one segment, the Z fare is not available, so it is booking into Y. If Z becomes available, is a change fee required?
Sep 29, 2014, 6:49 pm
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By CRWT, do you mean either CRWSPCL or CRWSTAR1/2/3?
If so, there shouldn't* be a change fee to upgrade Y-Z as long as you are not re-routing the ticket.
*I say shouldn't however, it depends on what agent you get on the day. I would escalate the call if the agent tries to charge you a fee.
Sep 30, 2014, 7:07 am
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No, a fee would not be required if Z opens up. Is it a long haul or short haul segment?
If short haul, I would grin and bear it ( and hope Z opens up), but if it is a long haul
I would look for another routing.
If short haul, I would grin and bear it ( and hope Z opens up), but if it is a long haul
I would look for another routing.
Oct 2, 2014, 2:59 am
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If there is still some time until your first departure date you can waitlist the segment in Z, that way it will clear automatically and you don't need to check back regularly.
I also agree that no change fee should apply if you decide to have it ticketed in Y and rebook into Z later after it opened up.
Have you checked if that segment has a codeshare flight number of other *A carriers? Some carriers still use D class for CRW tickets and depending on the routing it is possible that you can book your desired flight in D class as a codeshare while Z is already sold out. The online tool will not be able to show that to you so you need to check availabilty on KVS or Expertflyer.
I also agree that no change fee should apply if you decide to have it ticketed in Y and rebook into Z later after it opened up.
Have you checked if that segment has a codeshare flight number of other *A carriers? Some carriers still use D class for CRW tickets and depending on the routing it is possible that you can book your desired flight in D class as a codeshare while Z is already sold out. The online tool will not be able to show that to you so you need to check availabilty on KVS or Expertflyer.
Oct 9, 2014, 8:04 pm
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My experience from many CRWSTARx in the past years is: As soon as the trip is ticketed the game (to obtain an upgrade later) is over:
If you get a segment ticketed in Y you wonīt get easily an upgrade to Z anymore. SQ didnīt offer me the upgrade in one case where seats became available in D class (at that time) and the ticket was issued by LH in Y and clearly showed the CRWSTAR2 tarif. You would need to reissue the ticket with the travel agent who sold the ticket and very likely you will have to pay the change fee.
I solved this issue later in another ticket by getting the trip ticketed using a D segment on another date/flight (where D was available) and putting the desired date onto the waitlist for D, while Y was immediately confirmed.
If you get a segment ticketed in Y you wonīt get easily an upgrade to Z anymore. SQ didnīt offer me the upgrade in one case where seats became available in D class (at that time) and the ticket was issued by LH in Y and clearly showed the CRWSTAR2 tarif. You would need to reissue the ticket with the travel agent who sold the ticket and very likely you will have to pay the change fee.
I solved this issue later in another ticket by getting the trip ticketed using a D segment on another date/flight (where D was available) and putting the desired date onto the waitlist for D, while Y was immediately confirmed.